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Subject: Re: Premature burial

Author: Roger Brown

Date: 16:49:03 09/09/05

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On September 09, 2005 at 18:37:39, Thomas Logan wrote:

>To know one in particular
>
>Last I looked Shredder is a chessbase engine
>
>IMHO no currently widely available engine has surpassed it
>
>at classical time control


Hello Thomas,

Last I looked at the SSDF list, the ruling version of Shredder was version 9
UCI.  This is not a chessbase product.

>
>A new Shredder will be out soon


Versions 7 (UCI)and 9 (UCI) currently sit at positions 3 and 1.  Any bets that
Shredder 10 UCI will be up there?


>
>Hiarcs 10 is around the corner
>
>A beta version of Hiarcs scored 6-4 against Zappa
>
>while the results are of limited importance it does show Zappa>
>will not have a cake walk and who knows it may eventually wind up being a
>chessbase engine. Stranger things have happened


Zappa's author has said similar things on numerous occasions (leaving out the
part about becoming a chessbase engine...).


>
>And Fruit who knows ?


Indeed.  That engine is going to raise more than eyebrows...


>
>These are new and interresting times but don't bury the old guard just yet


No burial is contemplated here *but* it is interesting that once upon a time
there would have been zero discussion on who was king of the jungle.

It simply makes for a fascinating future when two formerly free engines burst
into the forefront the way Fruit and Zappa have.  There is a debt owed to
engines that went before such as Ruffian, Crafty, Yace and TSCP.

Some persons may have buried those great ones in the stampede to engine #
7001.09.00 but on my machine they will never die.

This is a golden age of computerchess and I for one will not weep if out of it
if, as a final consumer of computerchess, I am faced with a bewildering number
of choices rather than having just one or two or three.

I am greedy, give me more and more until I cannot stand it.

:-)

Later.



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