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Subject: Re: Fruit-Toga 1.0 lacks endgame knowledge ?

Author: Roman Hartmann

Date: 02:24:18 10/13/05

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On October 12, 2005 at 23:26:09, Aloisio Ponti Lopes wrote:

>[D] 8/4r3/2R4p/k6P/5pK1/4b3/6B1/8 b - - 0 133
>
>wKg4,Bg2,Rc6,Ph5/bKa5,Be3,Re7,Pf4,h6
>
>Fruit-Toga 1.0 in this position played 133... f3 ? and lost the endgame; from
>the human point of view this is an unacceptable move... gives thje pawn for
>nothing, no compensation.
>
>What do other engines play in this position ?
>
>A. Ponti

I had a look at it with Fruit-Toga but it never even considered this move when
analyzing this position. f3 doesn't even show up among the 10 best moves ...

So I guess the time control was the problem then. Fruit-Toga maybe running out
of time?

Roman

New game,
8/4r3/2R4p/k6P/5pK1/4b3/6B1/8 b - - 0 1
Analysis by Toga II 1.0:
1. = (-0.19): 1...Re5 2.Rg6 Re8 3.Kf5 Rf8+ 4.Rf6 Rh8 5.Bf3 Kb4 6.Kg6 Kc4 7.Rd6
Bd4 8.Kf5 Rf8+ 9.Kg6 Bc5 10.Re6 Rd8 11.Kxh6
2. = (-0.15): 1...Rg7+ 2.Rg6 Rh7 3.Bf3 Kb4 4.Kf5 Rh8 5.Rg7 Kc5 6.Kg6 Bd4 7.Rc7+
Kd6 8.Rh7 Rc8 9.Kf5 Rc5+ 10.Kg4 Bf6 11.Rxh6 Ke5
3. = (-0.15): 1...Re8 2.Bf3 Rh8 3.Kf5 Kb5 4.Rc7 Kb6 5.Rb7+ Kc5 6.Kg6 Bd4 7.Rc7+
Kd6 8.Rh7 Rc8 9.Kf5 Rc5+ 10.Kg4 Bf6 11.Rxh6 Ke5
4. = (-0.15): 1...Rh7 2.Kf5 Rh8 3.Bf3 Kb5 4.Rc7 Kb6 5.Rb7+ Kc5 6.Kg6 Bd4 7.Rc7+
Kd6 8.Rh7 Rc8 9.Kf5 Rc5+ 10.Kg4 Bf6 11.Rxh6 Ke5
5. = (-0.14): 1...Kb4 2.Bf3 Rh7 3.Rc8 Rf7 4.Rc6 Rg7+ 5.Kf5 Rh7 6.Rc8 Ra7 7.Ra8
Rxa8 8.Bxa8 Kc5 9.Kg6 Kd6 10.Bf3 Bd4 11.Kxh6
6. = (-0.09): 1...Rf7 2.Be4 Rf8 3.Rxh6 f3 4.Re6 f2 5.Bg2 Bd4 6.Re4 Bc5 7.h6 f1Q
8.Bxf1 Rxf1 9.h7 Rf8 10.Rf4 Rd8 11.Kf5 Kb5 12.Rh4
7. = (-0.05): 1...Rb7 2.Be4 Rb8 3.Rxh6 f3 4.Re6 f2 5.Bg2 Bd4 6.h6 Rb1 7.h7 Rg1
8.Kf3 f1Q+ 9.Bxf1 Rxf1+ 10.Ke4 Bb2 11.Rg6 Re1+ 12.Kf5 Re5+ 13.Kf4 Re7
8. = (-0.05): 1...Rd7 2.Be4 Rd8 3.Rxh6 f3 4.Rf6 f2 5.Kg3 Rh8 6.Bg6 Kb4 7.Rxf2
Bxf2+ 8.Kxf2 Kc5 9.Ke3 Kd5 10.Kf4 Kd4 11.Bf7 Rb8
9. = (-0.03): 1...Bd2 2.Rd6 Bc1 3.Bf3 Rh7 4.Kf5 Rh8 5.Rd1 Be3 6.Kg6 Rg8+ 7.Kxh6
Kb5 8.Kh7 Rg3 9.Rf1 Kc4 10.h6 Rg5
10. = (-0.01): 1...Kb5 2.Rxh6 f3 3.Bf1+ Kc5 4.Rg6 f2 5.Kf3 Bd4 6.h6 Rh7 7.Ke4
Bc3 8.Rg5+ Kb4 9.Rb5+ Ka4 10.Rf5 Rxh6 11.Rxf2 Rh4+ 12.Kd5 Kb4



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