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Subject: Re: The big drop in the rating of my Fruit personality

Author: Ryan B.

Date: 17:44:53 10/17/05

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On October 17, 2005 at 17:01:25, Robert Hyatt wrote:

>On October 17, 2005 at 10:10:58, Uri Blass wrote:
>
>>I am now surprised by the big drop in the CEGT rating of my Fruit personality.
>>
>>It was already 2806 after 92 games and now it is 2748 after 223 games.
>>
>>I also remember possible error of 61 elo after 92 games but even if the real
>>rating is 61 elo lower than 2806 then I still do not expect the rating to change
>>so fast.
>>
>>This is surprising also because results that I read earlier not by CEGT
>>supported my personality.
>>
>>I wonder if the real error is not higher than the error that is written
>>
>>I wonder what is the reason for the big drop and if there was no problem in the
>>matches against spike and Jonny that seem to be the main reason for the drop in
>>my personality(did the same tester play these matches?).
>>
>>possible source of mistakes in the results.
>>
>>1)testing in different hardware relative to previous fruit.
>>
>>The claim of the CEGT is that they test with hardware that is equivalent to 2
>>ghz PIV but the problem is that there is no equivalence and it is possible that
>>one program likes more one processor and not another processor.
>>
>>2)testing different positions and not the same positions that were tested by
>>earlier version.
>>
>>3)testing against different opponents.
>>
>>Uri
>
>
>
>The standard deviation between two computer opponents is often over 200 rating
>points.  All you have to do is play on ICC for a while to see this happen.
>Programs cycle up and down without being changed, nor having their opponents
>change at all...


Very true.  Why is crafty only playing unrated games now by the way?



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