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Subject: Re: Collector's Corner..A Call To Arms!

Author: Martin Slowik

Date: 09:06:09 11/07/05

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>>If a chess playing entity X produces the same moves in the same amount of time
>>as Y then for measuring purposes I can take in matches X instead of Y to get the
>>right number. If it walks like a duck and talks like a duck… ;)
>
>this is where we do not see eye to eye
>
>my concern is only for dedicated computers
>thats all i care to collect,play against and test with
>
>even though you can attempt to get as close to possible to the Res with some pc
>running as close to the Res with the same program..i  simply am  uninterested in
>seeing the result
>
>if the Res were to be tested by the SSDF and they played it only against the
>weakest PC 's they can find  and the result was a 2700 Elo for the Res...this
>would be uninteresting for me an meaningless
>
>pure collectors think  a bit different then enthusiasts i think
>i am a collector ..nothing more..nothing less.. and as such i will stay focused
>on the hobby and not drag PC'S,Chess Crds,Modified computers or even humans into
>the equation


Yes, I think we have clarified the differences between our opinions quite well.

You like to put always all aspects (ie strength, collectability etc) in one
melting pot and to apply certain rules to all of it. If Chess Cards are
non-collectable then using them in a process together with collectable items,
for whatever purpose, is not what you want (if I understand it right).

I in contrast am used to analyse things, that is to subdivide them into
constituent parts and to consider them one for one. Measuring of the performance
(not that important with repect to dedicated units in my eyes btw) can be trated
differently for me than collecting itself.


>last Year at Kaufbereun there was some discussion to bring a Human Fide Master
>into the competiton
>
>myself and other collectors cried out against it and thankfully the idea was
>scraped

Well it depends what Kaufbeuren means or should mean. If we say that it is a
tournament for dedicated computers (and have defined what a dedicated computer
is) then it’s obvious that a participation of a human doesn’t fit the definition
well... ;)

>its really the same story for me
>
>just as i object to play against PC's(or chess cards) i object to play against
>modified computers
>and i do not collect them
>i can easily afford a modified V11 and i have 6 Elite A/g's boards  i could
>contribute to have its guts ripped out for the modification
>
>simply not interested in it

I see you have certain rules. :) But for a discussion of the definition of what
a ‘dedicated chess computer’ is, we rather should perhaps open a new thread, I
think... (or not) ;)

What is a True Dedicated Schachcomputer Regards,
Martin

>
>
>Stay the True Course..
>Steve



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