Author: Uri Blass
Date: 04:20:35 11/12/05
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On November 12, 2005 at 07:08:28, Drexel,Michael wrote: >On November 12, 2005 at 06:48:06, Kurt Utzinger wrote: > >>On November 12, 2005 at 06:43:52, Drexel,Michael wrote: >> >>>On November 12, 2005 at 06:27:24, Kurt Utzinger wrote: >>> >>>>On November 12, 2005 at 06:17:10, Drexel,Michael wrote: >>>> >>>>>On November 12, 2005 at 03:59:54, Kurt Utzinger wrote: >>>>> >>>>>>In the running Open Dutch Computerchess Championship >>>>>>it was the program "Usurpator" to choose with White >>>>>>twice the queen move Qh5 in the second move. Of course, >>>>>>both games endet with a disaster. What the hell is the >>>>>>idea of the programmer to choose such a bad opening line? >>>>>>Kurt >>>>> >>>>>Both games ended in a disaster because Ursupator is a very weak program. >>>>> >>>>>I´m sure this would be a great opening move to play against all engines because >>>>>you quickly get them out of book and the chances to get some nonsense moves are >>>>>very high. >>>>> >>>>>Michael >>>> >>>> >>>> Hi Michael >>>> I very much doubt ... you can say what you want, >>>> but an opening where Black is slightly better >>>> after the second move should be avoided at any >>>> cost ... at least in matches between computer >>>> programs. >>>> Regards >>>> Kurt >>> >>>Nope, this should only be avoided if you don´t have some further book moves. >>>Why do you think people on the chess servers are sucessful with Nonsense >>>openings like 1.d4 d5 2.h4, 1.d4 d5 2.a4, 1.b3 d5 2.Ba3 etc? >>> >>>Michael >> >> Those who are accustomed with such nonsense openings >> have the advantage to surprise their opponents but >> this does not count vs a computer program. > >This would be a pleasant surprise. >Such openings are pointless against humans. >I´m talking about computer vs. computer only. What humans know that computers do not know? Humans are not better than computers in FRC so the assumption that humans are better than computers in finding moves in unknown positions is wrong so if the opening is good against computers because computers blunder after 2.Qh5 with black then I see no reason to think that humans are not going to blunder after the same move. Uri
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