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Subject: Re: 1.e4 e5 2.Qh5 ?!

Author: Drexel,Michael

Date: 07:22:09 11/12/05

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On November 12, 2005 at 10:01:04, George Tsavdaris wrote:

>On November 12, 2005 at 09:40:48, Drexel,Michael wrote:
>
>>On November 12, 2005 at 09:25:39, George Tsavdaris wrote:
>>
>>>>
>>>>Note that I had access to Fritz 9 evaluation during the game.
>>>
>>> If you looked at _your_ replies and that affected your decisions during the
>>>game, then the game is of no value.......
>>
>>What do you mean by "looked at _your_ replies"??
>>I simply didn´t close the engine tab during the game since that certainly makes
>>it a lot easier for me to exploit the weaknesses of the program.
>>
>>My goal was not to prove that I am stronger than Fritz, my goal was to prove
>>that 2.Qh5 is a good move against computers.
>
>2.Qh5 is not a very wise choice for white from a theoretical point of view.

I agree, but a clear cut refutation does not exist either.
With the white pieces you probably can afford to play such a nonsense move.

> Yet you can succeed in making such a killer 2.Qh5-book that will win most of
>the time against a today top engine. And this is because the today top engines
>don't have good answers to their book for 2.Qh5.
> But someone else can definitely make another anti-2.Qh5 book that would offer
>strong replies to 2.Qh5 and since 2.Qh5 is not the best opening for white, then
>your 2.Qh5-book would not be effective..........

Correct, but it can be very effective before that happens.

>>I am able to create a book based on 2.Qh5 which is simply a killer book for
>>computer vs. computer.
>
>Oh, now i understand.......You didn't play a normal game _alone_ against Fritz 9
>and won with 2.Qh5, but you tried to find moves with whatever way (and that was
>by looking at Fritz's 9 evaluations), that would provide a win for white. That
>is clear now!
>
>>
>>>>Of course Fritz will play different moves in a tournament game
>>>
>>>What do you mean by "tournament game".....?
>>>
>>>>but I am sure it
>>>>would be a matter of some hours to figure out how to beat top engines almost
>>>>always in tournament games with 2.Qh5 for me.
>>>
>>> If this is true, then you are stronger than computers and i'm 100% sure that
>>>this is not true.
>>
>>And I am 100% sure you don´t have a clue what you are talking about.
>
> I had a clue, but i misunderstood what you've said. I thought you have played a
>normal game against Fritz 9 and won with 2.Qh5. But that was not the case.....It
>was an experiment to show that Fritz 9 with black can lose at 10'/game with
>2.Qh5........


> Also you claim that you can find a way that you can win all top engines by
>playing this.....By restricting this "all" only to Fruit, Shredder, Fritz,
>Junior, Hiarcs i think you will need around 7-8 months of continued analysis to
>be able to win almost always and at a certain time control......!

You can do it a lot quicker if you play some automatic engine tournaments with a
shallow book at different time controls before you create the "deep" book.

Michael

>>
>>
>>So you should mean something else. What do you exactly mean?
>>>
>>> Saying that after 2.Qh5 that you can find how to beat all the time, all top
>>>engines, means that:
>>>1)2.Qh5 leads to a superior position for white
>>>2)You are superior to computer top programs
>>>3)Both 1) and 2)
>>>
>>>>
>>>>Michael



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