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Subject: Re: Creation of a moderated usenet group?

Author: Robert Hyatt

Date: 20:24:11 03/26/99

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On March 26, 1999 at 22:22:50, Adnan wrote:

>
>>there is a solution:  automated moderation.  We set up a 'bot' that knows
>>three types of people:
>>
>>1.  known 'good' posters.  posts are auto-passed thru, but can be deleted if
>>they become offensive.
>>
>>2.  known 'bad' posters.  No posts allowed, period, all are rejected.  This
>>would be where I would put Rolf, Sean, and 'company'.
>
>I disagree with number 2. Usenet is a public system. You should not ban people
>completely people from USENET *any* newsgroup, no matter how abusive they become
>sometimes. Each post from "bad" poster should be judged by it's on merit. If the
>post is abusive, it should be rejected. If it is not, you should reject it. Not
>to mention, USENET adminstration would never allow such a blatant ban on people.
>
>Another problem is that it is impossible to ban someone from USENET completely.
>To do that you have to ban his entire ISP, because corrrect email address are
>not required to post to USENET. No USENET admin would let you ban somone
>completely from the group. Each post of a bad poster should be judged
>individually.


You don't understand 'moderated usenet'.  The moderator can, and often does,
simply say 'no more' and he allows no more posts by someone.  It happens all
the time, and it is _not_ against any usenet news policy.  IE who would want
'Sean the idiot' posting _anywhere_?  What does he have to offer?  Why does
a moderator have to spend time going thru his garbage?

The short answer?  He doesn't.  The moderator can't ban, but he can refuse to
accept posts from someone.  And should.

The internet will eventually disallow anonymous stuff.  It is getting very close
with IPV6.  And _then_ this problem won't exist any longer, because these
anonymous remailers will be out of business, _finally_.  Give it maybe 3 more
years and moderation will be a much easier task...



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