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Subject: Re: With What Right Topalov is still Champion ----

Author: Ted Summers

Date: 13:05:54 01/30/06

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On January 30, 2006 at 13:39:16, Albert Silver wrote:


>
>Remove the opening book? Remove the endgame tablebases? I really fail to see how
>that is going to make it a 'level playing field'. All you will be doing is
>devising ways to weaken the program, so that humans can beat them.
>
>Eventually, even that won't help, and then what will you do to 'level the
>playing field'? Less RAM? No CPUs over 1 GHz allowed? You either accept that a
>program is exactly that: a program. And cannot be compared to a human, or you
>start treating it as a human, and demand all kinds of silly things of it. For
>example, it is forbidden to take notes during the play. Programs do exactly that
>with their hashtables. They write down the moves and evaluations and consult
>them. This is forbidden! Etc. You get the picture.
>
>                                        Albert
>

So if I understand you correctly, you are saying that chess programs are so weak
that they need to "look up" opening book moves and endgame databases in order to
win? Humans are not allowed to do that, they have to depend on their memory.

So does that mean that the great chess engines Fritz, Shredder, Hiarcs, Rybka,
etc, are really not so great after all. Since they do not go by the FIDE rules
of chess by using opening books and endgame databases (Aka: Aids)






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