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Subject: Re: [Moderation] Enough is enough

Author: Peter Skinner

Date: 01:22:21 02/13/06

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On February 13, 2006 at 03:29:19, Vasik Rajlich wrote:

>On February 12, 2006 at 13:32:33, Peter Skinner wrote:
>
>>This is nothing more than a flagrant attempt in polling users about possible
>>commercial payment possibilities for your program, and as such I am removing the
>>thread.
>>
>>As per the charter:
>>
>>Once a member gains access to the message board, he may read all messages and
>>post new or response messages with the proviso that these new or response
>>messages:
>>
>>   1. Are, within reason, on the topic of computer chess
>>   2. Are not abusive in nature
>>   3. Do not contain personal and/or libelous attacks on others
>>   4. Are not flagrant commercial exhortations
>>   5. Are not of questionable legal status.
>>
>>What about rule #4 do you not understand?
>>
>>Peter
>
>I think the moderation team should clarify rule #4.
>
>My post did not:
>
>1) Talk positively about Rybka
>2) Make any commercial mention (website, price)
>
>Further, my topic has general computer chess interest.
>
>How is this commercial, when (for example) the collector's corner stuff is not?
>(Just to clarify - I have absolutely no problem with the collector's corner.
>It's just that there will always be some brushing up with commercial issues.)
>
>Vas

Then please clarify how this is NOT relating to commercial interest regarding
your program:

Quote

"Hello,

my experience with various releases over the past two months has been quite
positive, and one of the things that I have tossing over in my mind is the idea
of continuing a sort of "rolling release schedule" for versions of Rybka after
1.2. Customers would pay for a subscription, rather than for a specific release.

Probably, the release schedule would be on the order of once per one or two
months.

If this happens, of course existing customers will have their order turned into
a subscription which starts when Rybka 1.2 is ready. In fact, I'd probably add
some sort of a bonus for the early customers.

There are three problematic issues:

1) How to combine it in the future with CD sales.
2) How to convince someone whose subscription period just expired to renew
immediately, when the next update will be only marginally better than the
previous one. Basically, in that scenario, you are selling the future.
3) This whole approach depends on continual progress, and loses its point when
progress comes to a crawl."

End Quote

You mention your program, how you can get new customers and retain old ones, and
the differences between a release fee and a subscription fee.

You then ask above to get the replies to this _before_ I removed them. I know
the reason.. you want to see the feedback.. nothing more.

Please enlighten me as to how I am wrong.

Peter



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