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Subject: Evaluation Scores

Author: Rolf Tueschen

Date: 03:09:22 02/13/06

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On February 13, 2006 at 04:53:57, enrico carrisco wrote:

>On February 13, 2006 at 03:33:38, Vasik Rajlich wrote:
>
>>On February 13, 2006 at 02:14:07, Ryan B. wrote:
>>
>>>On February 12, 2006 at 21:55:40, stuart taylor wrote:
>>>
>>>>On February 12, 2006 at 17:16:43, Ryan B. wrote:
>>>>
>>>>>On February 12, 2006 at 13:32:33, Peter Skinner wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>>This is nothing more than a flagrant attempt in polling users about possible
>>>>>>commercial payment possibilities for your program, and as such I am removing the
>>>>>>thread.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>As per the charter:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>Once a member gains access to the message board, he may read all messages and
>>>>>>post new or response messages with the proviso that these new or response
>>>>>>messages:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>   1. Are, within reason, on the topic of computer chess
>>>>>>   2. Are not abusive in nature
>>>>>>   3. Do not contain personal and/or libelous attacks on others
>>>>>>   4. Are not flagrant commercial exhortations
>>>>>>   5. Are not of questionable legal status.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>What about rule #4 do you not understand?
>>>>>>
>>>>>>Peter
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>Thank you for standing up to the Rybka hype machine.  I believe that you have
>>>>>nothing against Vas himself or Rybka and that you are simply making sure the
>>>>>charter is followed in hope that someday this forum will go back to what it once
>>>>>was.  It is odd but I miss the days of Robert and Vincent arguing over pointless
>>>>>side issues.  At least then we where learning more about computer chess from 2
>>>>>of the best if the field.  Now of there is a discussion about use of center pawn
>>>>>structure in eval no one is interested in the discussion, it is pushed off the
>>>>>first page in a day and there is only 1 non Rybka related thread on the first
>>>>>page by morning.  Ironically by the book builder of Rybka (That is not bad, just
>>>>>funny to me.  It was a very good post).  I hope that at least a few other people
>>>>>here feel the same way I do.
>>>>>
>>>>>Ryan
>>>>
>>>>Yes, the good old days with all the sloshy mud slinging. Much more exciting!
>>>>(Is that what you meant?)
>>>>S.Taylor
>>>
>>>
>>>No, sorry if I was not clear.  I miss reading about computer chess, learning
>>>from the best, and people sharing ideas.  This is the opposite of what Rybka is
>>>about as Vas has gone out of his way to hide what Rybka is doing and does not
>>>share ideas with the computer chess community.  This is fine of course but
>>>reading the hype and watching a group of people pay to beta test Rybka is not
>>>fun for me.  If others find this fun that is fine as well.  I will just move to
>>>a forum that better fits what I am looking for and continue doing what I do.  I
>>>hope this is more clear this time.
>>>
>>>Thanks,
>>>Ryan Benitez
>>
>>You will find many technical posts of mine on this forum and in the archives. If
>>you want more technical discussions here, start contributing.
>>
>>Vas
>
>Most of your "many technical posts" were before Rybka's huge 800+ ELO jump (in
>roughly 1.5 years), i.e. post-CCT6 (Feb. 2004) where Rybka ranked 49th place.
>
>http://www.vrichey.de/cct6/index_table.htm
>
>But I'm surprised you jumped on this thread as the head-turning approach seems
>to be your modus operandi concerning recent "technical" threads concerning Rybka
>and its very unique behavior.
>
>However, since you seem to be in a "technical" mood at the moment, please
>explain what Rybka is doing here:
>
>http://www.talkchess.com/forums/1/message.html?485132
>
>The thread has been posted and referenced a few times now and I would really
>like to hear the "technical" explanation from the author.
>
>Do comment.
>
>Regards,
>
>-elc.


http://www.talkchess.com/forums/1/message.html?484761

I found this answer by Vasik. Pretty short but then it supports Dann's opinion
that Vas isnt intentiously twisting the scores to confuse the users...



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