Author: enrico carrisco
Date: 03:17:12 02/13/06
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On February 13, 2006 at 06:09:22, Rolf Tueschen wrote: >On February 13, 2006 at 04:53:57, enrico carrisco wrote: > >>On February 13, 2006 at 03:33:38, Vasik Rajlich wrote: >> >>>On February 13, 2006 at 02:14:07, Ryan B. wrote: >>> >>>>On February 12, 2006 at 21:55:40, stuart taylor wrote: >>>> >>>>>On February 12, 2006 at 17:16:43, Ryan B. wrote: >>>>> >>>>>>On February 12, 2006 at 13:32:33, Peter Skinner wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>>>This is nothing more than a flagrant attempt in polling users about possible >>>>>>>commercial payment possibilities for your program, and as such I am removing the >>>>>>>thread. >>>>>>> >>>>>>>As per the charter: >>>>>>> >>>>>>>Once a member gains access to the message board, he may read all messages and >>>>>>>post new or response messages with the proviso that these new or response >>>>>>>messages: >>>>>>> >>>>>>> 1. Are, within reason, on the topic of computer chess >>>>>>> 2. Are not abusive in nature >>>>>>> 3. Do not contain personal and/or libelous attacks on others >>>>>>> 4. Are not flagrant commercial exhortations >>>>>>> 5. Are not of questionable legal status. >>>>>>> >>>>>>>What about rule #4 do you not understand? >>>>>>> >>>>>>>Peter >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>>Thank you for standing up to the Rybka hype machine. I believe that you have >>>>>>nothing against Vas himself or Rybka and that you are simply making sure the >>>>>>charter is followed in hope that someday this forum will go back to what it once >>>>>>was. It is odd but I miss the days of Robert and Vincent arguing over pointless >>>>>>side issues. At least then we where learning more about computer chess from 2 >>>>>>of the best if the field. Now of there is a discussion about use of center pawn >>>>>>structure in eval no one is interested in the discussion, it is pushed off the >>>>>>first page in a day and there is only 1 non Rybka related thread on the first >>>>>>page by morning. Ironically by the book builder of Rybka (That is not bad, just >>>>>>funny to me. It was a very good post). I hope that at least a few other people >>>>>>here feel the same way I do. >>>>>> >>>>>>Ryan >>>>> >>>>>Yes, the good old days with all the sloshy mud slinging. Much more exciting! >>>>>(Is that what you meant?) >>>>>S.Taylor >>>> >>>> >>>>No, sorry if I was not clear. I miss reading about computer chess, learning >>>>from the best, and people sharing ideas. This is the opposite of what Rybka is >>>>about as Vas has gone out of his way to hide what Rybka is doing and does not >>>>share ideas with the computer chess community. This is fine of course but >>>>reading the hype and watching a group of people pay to beta test Rybka is not >>>>fun for me. If others find this fun that is fine as well. I will just move to >>>>a forum that better fits what I am looking for and continue doing what I do. I >>>>hope this is more clear this time. >>>> >>>>Thanks, >>>>Ryan Benitez >>> >>>You will find many technical posts of mine on this forum and in the archives. If >>>you want more technical discussions here, start contributing. >>> >>>Vas >> >>Most of your "many technical posts" were before Rybka's huge 800+ ELO jump (in >>roughly 1.5 years), i.e. post-CCT6 (Feb. 2004) where Rybka ranked 49th place. >> >>http://www.vrichey.de/cct6/index_table.htm >> >>But I'm surprised you jumped on this thread as the head-turning approach seems >>to be your modus operandi concerning recent "technical" threads concerning Rybka >>and its very unique behavior. >> >>However, since you seem to be in a "technical" mood at the moment, please >>explain what Rybka is doing here: >> >>http://www.talkchess.com/forums/1/message.html?485132 >> >>The thread has been posted and referenced a few times now and I would really >>like to hear the "technical" explanation from the author. >> >>Do comment. >> >>Regards, >> >>-elc. > > >http://www.talkchess.com/forums/1/message.html?484761 > >I found this answer by Vasik. Pretty short but then it supports Dann's opinion >that Vas isnt intentiously twisting the scores to confuse the users... I'm specifically taking about total node count reducing as depth increases. -elc.
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