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Subject: Re: I'm convinced Hardware plays limited role in Rybka's strength

Author: Ryan B.

Date: 22:59:07 02/27/06

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On February 27, 2006 at 23:51:54, Uri Blass wrote:

>On February 27, 2006 at 22:25:44, Ryan B. wrote:
>
>>On February 27, 2006 at 21:55:05, Charles Wane wrote:
>>
>>>I just got finished playing a four game match at game/30 min between Hiarcs 10
>>>and Rykba 13d, Hiarcs had an Athlon64 3200 with 128mb hash, against Rykba
>>>running on a Pent II 450 with 128mb hash. The score was 2-2 !!  Yesterday I
>>>played about 14 games between rykba running on the same 450 against Deep fritz 8
>>>on the Athlon64 and rykba won the majority of the games!! Iv'e never seen a
>>>program with such inferior hardware play so strong. I actually rated rybka on
>>>the 450 on chessmaster 10th but letting rybka play the various personalities it
>>>ended up with a rating of 3055!! And lost only one game , running all on a mere
>>>Pent II 450.  I guess Rybka's case the chess knowledge means much more then the
>>>speed of the program? I don't know cause I'm not a computer chess expert, but
>>>all this seems bizarre.
>>
>>From what I have seen Rybka has great knowledge but not in the way of
>>traditional chess knowledge by having a huge evaluation function.  Like all
>>chess engines I expect Rybka to play better on faster hardware but I so far
>>think the gain of fast hardware is less than most other programs.  From what I
>>see Rybka ranks higher in blitz than long tc games.  This is at least the case
>>on the CEGT rating list.
>>
>>Ryan
>
>I do not think that you are right here and rybka does not rank higher in blitz.
>
>Let compare the 32 bit versions of rybka
>
>blitz
>4 Rybka 1.01 Beta 13b 32-bit 2820 20 31 652 69.8 % 2675 23.0 %
>5 Rybka 1.0 Beta 32-bit 2811 9 12 3139 68.1 % 2679 29.2 %
>
>long time control
>
>3 Rybka 1.01 Beta 13-13b 32-bit 2869 28 28 494 73.9 % 2689 27.9 %
>5 Rybka 1.0 Beta 32-bit 2823 10 10 3670 68.8 % 2686 31.1 %
>
>You can see that rybka has higher ranking at long time control.
>
>I believe that the 64 bit version simply score too much to have reliable rating
>because it played in the long time control against opponents that are too
>weak(more than 300 elo weaker than it).
>
>Uri


Fruit is my reference point.

CEGT 40/40
Rybka 1.0 Beta 32bit	2816
Fruit 2.2.1	2779


CEGT Blitz 40/4
Rybka 1.01 Beta 13b 32-bit	2820
Fruit 2.2.1	2767

Ryan



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