Author: José de Jesús García Ruvalcaba
Date: 16:04:40 04/22/99
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On April 22, 1999 at 16:48:36, Craig Stevens wrote: >On April 22, 1999 at 11:45:19, KarinsDad wrote: > >>A special note on draws (FIDE rules), FYI. >> >>A stalemate is always a draw (even if illegal moves are made afterwards). >> >>Insufficient winning material for both sides is always a draw. If one side has >>insufficient winning material and his opponent's flag falls, then it is a draw, >>not a win. > >I was told by a tournament director a couple months ago that when I had two >pawns versus the other players knight and my flag fell that it was a loss, not a >draw because I could somehow step into a mate because my pawns were blocking >access to two squares! If I would have known that I would have just given up >the pawns! But what if a player is low on time and the other player refuses to >snatch available pawns and just plants a knight in front of a pawn and waits it >out. I guess eventually you would get a 3 fold rep, but that might take a >while! In the mean time I lose? Is this correct? > I am not up to date with the rules; but the last time I checked you could ask the arbiter a draw BEFORE running out of time. If she/he thinks the position is a dead draw (consultation with strong players is recommended), the game is drawn. But if you keep playing on and run out of time, then you lose. The philosophy behind it is that playing on gives you winning chances, and accordingly you should get losing chances too. >>If both flags fall and it is impossible to determine which flag fell first, the >>game is always drawn. >> >>Draws by repetition of position and by the 50 move rule are only draws if it is >>claimed by one person. If the draw is missed (or not claimed) and the game is >>continued, then the earlier draw cannot be claimed later in the game (although >>later conditions can turn the game into a draw again such as the 50 moves >>extending to 55 moves). >> >>Most of these will not be an issue with computer programs, however, it is >>important to note that draws by repetition of position and the 50 move rule DO >>NOT have to be claimed, so programs should be written to not bring it up if they >>think they are substantially winning (if their opponent does not catch it, too >>bad). >> >>KarinsDad :)
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