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Subject: Re: Draws in general

Author: José de Jesús García Ruvalcaba

Date: 09:58:06 04/24/99

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On April 23, 1999 at 17:17:10, KarinsDad wrote:

>On April 22, 1999 at 16:48:36, Craig Stevens wrote:
>
>[snip]
>
>>>
>>>Insufficient winning material for both sides is always a draw. If one side has
>>>insufficient winning material and his opponent's flag falls, then it is a draw,
>>>not a win.
>>
>>I was told by a tournament director a couple months ago that when I had two
>>pawns versus the other players knight and my flag fell that it was a loss, not a
>>draw because I could somehow step into a mate because my pawns were blocking
>>access to two squares!  If I would have known that I would have just given up
>>the pawns!  But what if a player is low on time and the other player refuses to
>>snatch available pawns and just plants a knight in front of a pawn and waits it
>>out.  I guess eventually you would get a 3 fold rep, but that might take a
>>while!  In the mean time I lose?  Is this correct?
>
>Yes. This is correct. Here is the FIDE rule concerning it:
>
>6.9. Except where Articles 5.1, 5.2 and 5.3 apply, if a player does not complete
>the prescribed number of moves in the allotted time, the game is lost by the
>player. However, the game is drawn, if the position is such that the opponent
>cannot checkmate the player by any possible series of legal moves ( i.e. by the
>most unskilled counterplay).
>
>This means that if you played terrible and your opponent could win by
>checkmating you, you still lose (even though a knight and king alone cannot
>normally checkmate). If you want to force a draw quickly (i.e. you are low on
>time), there is a better way than trying for a 3 fold rep. Just push the pawns.
>Either he takes or you get a queen. Once it is KNK, it is automatically a draw.
>

	But the opponent can safely block one pawn and not capture it. There is no way
to force her/him to take the blocked pawn.
	This is what I do not like about sudden-death time controls, people trying to
win by these absurd ways.

>If it would have been KQKN as opposed to KPPKN, then there is no position on the
>board that would result in a checkmate for the KN side, hence, it would have
>been a draw.
>
>Sorry about the confusion due to my lack of being clear on the rule.
>
>KarinsDad :)



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