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Subject: Re: Mathematical wow!!!

Author: Timothy J. Frohlick

Date: 20:41:03 05/20/99

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On May 20, 1999 at 15:24:36, Dann Corbit wrote:

>On May 20, 1999 at 14:13:34, Dann Corbit wrote:
>[snip]
>>>The thread about representing positions in the minimum number of bits is also
>>>about setting an upper bound on the maximum number of chess positions. 160 bits
>>>is 2^160 or  ~= 10^48.
>>Yes, what a fascinating rejoinder!  In this case, if 10^52 is correct, then 173
>>bits should be the minimum, since 2^173 = 1.197e52
>>If we can encode in less, then the number of board positions is less than we
>>thought (or we have an error in our thinking and the scheme won't work).
>Which brings up another fascinating idea.  If we can come up with a minimal
>encoding, we can bound the maximum possible number of chess positions.  If the
>claim that all positions can be encoded in 100 bits is true, then there are
>"only" about 1e30 board positions!!  Several orders of magnitude below any limit
>claimed that I know of.  After all, if the mapping really is invertible, we will
>have a one to one and onto map from a 100 bit binary number to all possible
>board positions!


1,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000 board positions.  There are
31,536,000,000 seconds in a millenium.  That is 31,709,791,983,760,000,000
positions per second.  I think that we'll find Martians before that happens.

Tim Frohlick



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