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Subject: Re: New WCC Ranking

Author: Paulo Soares

Date: 14:58:59 06/01/99

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On June 01, 1999 at 13:10:44, KarinsDad wrote:

>On May 31, 1999 at 04:57:28, Paulo Soares wrote:
>
>>Go to http://www.ciudadfutura.com/superajedrez/wccworld.htm
>>
>>Ranking WCC, 06-01-99
>>
>>1.	Kasparov,Garry		RUS	2838
>>2.	Shirov,Alexei		ESP	2727
>>
>>The difference is very great. I think that a good part of
>>this difference must to the home analyses of Kasparov and his
>>team, with the computers. Others GM also must study the positions with
>>computers but, in my opinion, Kasparov, for having more ability,
>>has more easiness to adapting to the dynamics of the computers.
>>Another advantage, for being the best, has his games more
>>analyzed than the others, and with the computers has the
>>advantage to create new variants in little time.
>>In one exchange of ideas with KarinsDad, I said that I did not
>>believe that Kasparov could have a so great difference in relation
>>to his contemporaries, how Fischer. Somebody would know which was the
>>biggest difference, in rating, that Fischer obtained over his
>>contemporaries?
>>
>>Paulo Soares, from Brazil
>
>Paulo,
>
>Bobby Fischer's best USCF rating was 2825.
>Bobby Fischer's best FIDE performance rating in the 1971 candidates matches was
>3060. I have not found a Kasparov performance rating near this (although, it
>could be there).
>
>Bobby Fischer's best Elo rating was 2785.
>Karpov's best FIDE rating (not sure if this is different then Elo) was 2760 (but
>this was not until 1993, in 1975 when he won the championship from Fischer by
>default, his rating was 2705).
>Botvinnik's best Elo rating (calculated after the fact) was about 2730 for 1948.
>Tal's best Elo rating was 2700.
>Spassky's best Elo rating was 2690.
>Smyslov's best Elo rating was 2690.
>Petrosian best Elo rating was 2680 (he also tied Fischer in 1964 for first place
>with 2690 on the first UNOFFICIAL Elo rating list).
>
>As can be seen, Fischer dominated his fellow players (i.e. all World Champions)
>by at least 80 to 95 rating points (his best versus their best up to the point
>in time that they played against him). So, it is apparent that he dominated them
>in the early 70s similar to how Kasparov dominates his contemporaries.
>
>However, one must always admit that Kasparov's rating has been number one for 15
>years (it was tied once) and is the highest of anyone's in the history of the
>game. Also, he is arguably playing at a time where there is a proliferation of
>great players at the top. Nobody else has done that.
>
>KarinsDad :)

KarinsDad, thanks for his excellent research.
It has some years, I read in the French magazine Europe Échecs, an article
about rating inflation. What the article wanted to prove it was that rating
of a chess player, measured has twenty years ago, would be bigger if was
measured at the time of the article. I never understood well the used formulas,
but if this is truth, old players rating, would be bigger today, or either,
the best Fischer rating would be bigger than 2785.

Paulo Soares



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