Author: Christophe Theron
Date: 14:42:20 06/05/99
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On June 05, 1999 at 15:34:04, KarinsDad wrote:
>On June 05, 1999 at 13:02:13, Christophe Theron wrote:
>
>
>>
>>Just a question to you, KarinsDad.
>>
>>I have concerns with people posting here with fake names, or nicknames, which is
>>your case.
>>
>>I like to know to whom I am talking to. When I talk to you I don't know. Maybe I
>>know you personnaly, but I can't be sure, and I am not comfortable with this.
>>
>>Also, name faking has been used by some people to put trouble in CCC some time
>>ago.
>>
>>On the other hand, from the posts I have read from you, it looks like you could
>>be a good moderator.
>>
>>When the election will be over, you'll have to provide some proof of identity to
>>Steve. I would like Steve to make informations about the moderator's real
>>identity public.
>>
>>Maybe you already told us your name, I don't know. I can't follow every
>>discussion here.
>>
>>Anyway, would you have a problem with making your identity public?
>>
>>
>> Christophe
>
>A valid concern for you. Steve has already stated that his verification of
>identity would not go beyond him, so do not expect him to change that stance.
>
>However, I have to tell you that I do not know who Christophe Theron is.
I understand. But if we meet in some place, say a computer tournament, then we
know each other. Then my name has a special meaning for you, and yours has a
special meaning for me.
Now if I use another name to start a discussion with you on an Internet forum,
it is really unfair that I know who you are, and you don't know who you are
talking to.
It's obvious that the things we say, and the way we express them, depend
strongly on the person we are talking to.
I don't feel comfortable when I speak to somebody who hides behind a mask. How
would you feel?
>That
>name means no more to me than KarinsDad does to you. The reason I originally
>went with KarinsDad is that it is my FICS handle, so people who play me there
>could associate with my name here. I made the handle up due to my pride in my
>daughter (a pride I enjoy sharing with others).
>
>I have also come to realize that my name is nobody else's business, at least for
>the moment. If you think that I am a reasonable person based on my posts for the
>last 6 months, then you may vote for me. If not using my real name bothers you
>enough, you will not vote for me. I will not give out my real name just in order
>to help moderate a forum where a few of the people attack moderators when they
>feel like it anyway.
I appreciate a lot the fact that you are ready to accept the job of moderator,
which is a hard one. I myself declined the offer because I think it's too much
work and you get absolutely nothing except bad feelings against you.
But I'm sorry I'm not ready to accept that somebody we don't even know the real
name is going to be entitled to take important decisions here.
It's not because I know nothing about you. It's rather because you could be
somebody that I know. Somebody I would not have voted for, who knows?
>However, I will tell you that I am working on two computer chess projects at the
>moment. One is to compress any random legal position into 20 bytes. Although
>nobody in their right mind would use such a thing, I was attempting to do this
>just because nobody else has (like Mount Everest, because it is there). If I am
>successful, I will probably send a copy of it to ICCA and post a copy in the
>articles section here on CCC. If this happens, I will use my real name, hence,
>people will find out who I am.
>
>I am also writing a chess program with a friend at the moment. If we can get it
>to work at some reasonable level, we will have it compete on ICC. If this
>happens, I will let people know who I am as well.
>
>So, I am not really paranoid about people finding out who I am. Several people
>here know who I am. The point is that I do not feel that it is necessary for
>people to know my real identity in order to make a rational decision on voting
>for me. If they decide they need to know, then their rational decision is that I
>should not be voted in. If they decide they do not need to know, then their
>rational decision will be based on what they know of me.
One of the things we know about you is that you don't want your real name to be
known.
I can understand that you don't want to get too much involved when your only
goal is to read posts about computer chess. But if you take the moderator job,
you get much more involved. And you can't pretend anymore that you can hide
behind a nickname.
Would you vote for a president that hides behind a mask and uses a nickname?
Of course this place is not as important as a country, but still the principle
is the same.
You cannot take public responsabilities and stay hidden behind a curtain.
>Quite frankly, out of all of the people here, I only knew one person (i.e.
>someone I have had a conversation with in the past) before joining this forum.
>This person is not a friend, just an acquaintance. The rest of the people on the
>forum are complete strangers to me, just like I am to you.
>
>KarinsDad :)
I suppose you think I'm taking this a little bit too seriously. Of course I
understand that your initial choice of this nickname was really innocent. I
could have done the same, why not?
Also I understand you don't see this as an attack against you. Why would I
attack you, anyway, as I don't even know who you are? :)
But I just cannot vote for somebody that does not want to give his name.
Christophe Théron
c/o Serge Lunion
SIMONET
97190 GOSIER
Guadeloupe (French West Indies)
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