Author: greg moller
Date: 11:41:49 06/06/99
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On June 05, 1999 at 22:41:58, Robert Hyatt wrote:
>On June 05, 1999 at 21:28:59, Ricardo Gibert wrote:
>
>>On June 05, 1999 at 18:15:20, Robert Hyatt wrote:
>>
>>>On June 05, 1999 at 15:04:20, Mark Young wrote:
>>>
>>>>I had the time today to log the top ICC chess programs and read their finger
>>>>notes as I do from time to time. When I came across Crafty's (Bob Hyatt's finger
>>>>notes) Bob's finger notes claim Crafty is running on a 486/66 with 4 MB ram, and
>>>>a 40MB hard drive. At the same time it is using 20GB of EGTB's (Ahhh.
>>>>compression software.:) )
>>>>
>>>>Is this just a joke or some kind of protest or just plain sarcasm for other
>>>>underreporting their hardware? A possible example Mofongo, claiming to run on a
>>>>PII 450 and running Crafty has a rating of 3210, at the same time Crafty (bob's
>>>>crafty) running on qaud Xeon PII 400 has a rating of 2969. {Bob?)
>>>
>>>
>>>Yep... it is 'sarcasm'. We have _so_ many liars on ICC, even though I don't
>>>see the reasoning behind it... ie 'matemaster' is one, but there are many.
>>>
>>>Mofongo's machine is actually right... he just only plays GM players at blitz,
>>>and only at 3 0 or 5 0 time controls, so he is nearly impossible for a GM to
>>>beat. And when you are very selective in who you play, this happens. IE I'd
>>>be willing to bet that I could break 3400 if I just wanted to maximize my rating
>>>without actually trying to 'play better'.
>>
>>I'm sure you would win this bet, but if your opponents give up trying to win and
>>play for a draw instead, maybe you will lose the bet. Read mlbernstein finger
>>notes. I myself have drawn a half dozen games (unrated) against shredder, cstal
>>& crafty clones, generally with an exchange sac endgame, interestingly. The
>>programs can't bring themselves to sac material back to activate their rooks.
>>Of course, I lose the rest of the time, but I'm sure I am scoring more than my
>>fair share. By the way, I'm a weak NM too, just like mlbernstein.
>>
>>>My 'machine' may change again, too. I might be on a 1mhz Z-80 next time you
>>>see me there. :)
>
>
>There are more than a few IM's that _only_ go for draws vs crafty. IE you can
>watch them try to block the pawns up, although it resists that pretty well (but
>not perfectly).
>
>Even GMs do this a lot. Crafty has played Kamsky a bunch of games, and he has
>often commented that "Against this computer, a draw is a perfectly acceptable
>outcome, when the attempt to go 1-0 often ends up 0-1". Others try all-out to
>win, which does make for more interesting chess. And Kamsky generally likes to
>win also, but he is wise enough to accept draws when winning is not reasonable
>in some positions...
Hi, Bob
Are you saying Kamsky is currently playing on ICC ?!
Regards,
gm
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