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Subject: Re: My Rationale

Author: Paul Richards

Date: 09:30:37 06/08/99

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On June 07, 1999 at 20:03:22, Robert Hyatt wrote:

>If you use hotmail.com, you are _already_ in trouble and don't even know it.
>Over 50% of the sendmail relay sites around the world are _killing_ your email
>messages.  Because hotmail.com is on every SPAM blacklist I know of.  And now
>folks are using sendmail clients that check the various blacklists before
>accepting email from the sender.
>
>I ran into this because UAB.EDU is also on all the blacklists, because our
>main campus email server had a sendmail client with open-relay allowed, and
>spammers were using us as a third-party to forward SPAM but make it look like
>it came from us since they were already blocked.
>
>I got wind of this trying to communicate with a friend of mine in Portland,
>where his company sendmail was quietly dropping my email to him into a toilet
>because of the blacklist.
>
>You are doomed to a shrinking view of the internet if you use hotmail or any
>other anonymous email provider.  And I'll bet you didn't know?  :(

No, because I hardly use it, and when I have the messages have gone
through fine.  Besides web mail is a pretty irritating interface to use
consistently, so I doubt I ever will.  I use my real ISP address and
real email software for normal email, I just never post that address
anywhere online.  I remember to check the hotmail account once every week
or two.  It's just a "clearing house" for anyone that wants to contact me
based on some online discussion.  Usually it isn't necessary because we
are discussing things on a particular forum already, and any points made
may as well be made in public.  If I've observed them for a time and feel
I know where they're coming from (relatively easy if you're a member of a
particular group for a long time) and I want to engage in a longer private
discussion I will respond or initiate a private discussion from my "real"
account and the discussion continues from there.  I don't invite the whole
world to call my phone number or knock on my door, so why should I do it
with email? ;) This heirarchical/buffer system works very well for me.
My private email gets used for things that demand my immediate attention,
I don't get swamped repeating discussions that I already engage in online, I
don't get hostile drivebys, anyone I talk to there will be someone I always
enjoy talking to, and I never ever get a single piece of spam in my real
account.



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