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Subject: Re: what is a perfect game?

Author: KarinsDad

Date: 09:19:13 06/11/99

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On June 11, 1999 at 11:47:27, KarinsDad wrote:

>
>I think the FIDE rules indirectly imply that a move must be made (although
>Miles/Reuben got away with a draw with no moves in 1975), depending on
>interpretation: "The game is drawn upon agreement between the two players during
>the game. This immediately ends the game". Since this says "during the game", it
>implies that the game is actually being played (or one move has been made???).
>

I looked up the following FIDE rules:

9.1 A player can propose a draw after making a move on the chessboard. He must
do so before stopping his own clock and starting his opponent's clock. An offer
at any other time during play is still valid, but Article 12.5 must be
considered.

12.5. It is forbidden to distract or annoy the opponent in any manner
whatsoever; this includes the persistent offer of a draw.

Rule 9.1 is screwy.

It effectively says that the ONLY time you can make a draw offer is after you
make a move, but before you stop your clock.

It also says that you can make a draw offer at any other time during play.

So, it contradicts itself.

The statement "An offer at any other time during play is still valid" should not
be there. Say that it is white to move. White must wait to offer a draw until he
makes a move. Black should not be able to offer a draw since he missed his
opportunity to offer a draw on the last move (i.e. he hit his clock before
offering the draw). Making it this way minimizes distractions such as your
opponent offering a draw at random times.

In one sense, the rule states that at least one move must be made on the board.
In other words, at the beginning of the game, it is white to move, so white must
wait to make a move, offer the draw, and then hit his clock.

The rule also says that at any other time during play, a draw is still valid.
So, this states that no move must be made.

The USCF also has contradictory rules as well. It's annoying.

KarinsDad :)



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