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Subject: Re: what is a perfect game?

Author: blass uri

Date: 10:00:50 06/11/99

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On June 11, 1999 at 12:19:13, KarinsDad wrote:

>On June 11, 1999 at 11:47:27, KarinsDad wrote:
>
>>
>>I think the FIDE rules indirectly imply that a move must be made (although
>>Miles/Reuben got away with a draw with no moves in 1975), depending on
>>interpretation: "The game is drawn upon agreement between the two players during
>>the game. This immediately ends the game". Since this says "during the game", it
>>implies that the game is actually being played (or one move has been made???).
>>
>
>I looked up the following FIDE rules:
>
>9.1 A player can propose a draw after making a move on the chessboard. He must
>do so before stopping his own clock and starting his opponent's clock. An offer
>at any other time during play is still valid, but Article 12.5 must be
>considered.
>
>12.5. It is forbidden to distract or annoy the opponent in any manner
>whatsoever; this includes the persistent offer of a draw.
>
>Rule 9.1 is screwy.
>
>It effectively says that the ONLY time you can make a draw offer is after you
>make a move, but before you stop your clock.

No it does not say that this is the *only* time.
I know that you can propose a draw before making a move but in this case the
opponent can delay the reply and answer only after you make a move so you earn
nothing from offering a draw before playing a move(if you assume your opponent
will tell you to play a move before you get an answer.

12.5 means only that it is not right to offer a draw during the opponent's time
or to offer a draw again and again.

Uri



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