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Subject: Re: shredder ties playoff game, wins WCCC

Author: Robert Hyatt

Date: 19:44:34 06/20/99

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On June 20, 1999 at 00:41:01, blass uri wrote:

>
>On June 20, 1999 at 00:31:47, Lin Harper wrote:
>
>>       It's not fair to say one machine had stronger opponents
>>    than the other, Ferret played whatever it was paired against.
>
>I could agree if shredder and Ferret won all games except the games between them
>but it is not the case.
>If Ferret is not worse than Shredder then I expect Ferret to take advantage of
>the fact that it played against weaker opponents and to have more points.
>

note that their tiebreak was 1.0 points different.  Note that shredder was
seeded very low (incorrectly) which paired it against a good opponent in
round 1, while ferret was paired high (correctly) and was paired against a
weaker opponent in round 1.  That could account for the 1.0 difference in
tie-break instantly...

IE nothing says that shredder played better opponents... try the tiebreak
without round 1 scores and see what happens...  and then decide whether the
sum-of-opponents is meaningful when they are that close.  Both played well.
And a coin-toss would have been just as accurate to pick the better program
since they drew twice...





>>       It's also not fair not to have a second final shootout if
>>    the first was a draw. Ferret not only had to play for a win
>>    but do it with the black pieces.
>
>If ferret could win shredder with the white pieces in round 6 then it could be
>the world champion without having to beat shredder with black pieces.
>
>The only thing that may be unfair is the fact that Shredder played 5
>games(including the last game) with white when Ferret played only 4 games with
>white but playing the last game with opposite colours does not solve this
>problem.
>
>Uri



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