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Subject: Re: Improve this forum, easy!

Author: Robert Hyatt

Date: 15:19:17 06/26/99

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On June 26, 1999 at 14:07:34, Pete Galati wrote:

>On June 26, 1999 at 13:35:32, Robert Hyatt wrote:
>
>>On June 26, 1999 at 13:17:22, Pete Galati wrote:
>>
>>>This works just fine, it doesn't need improving.
>>>
>>>Pete
>>
>>
>>I disagree.  The 'forum' is fine.  The 'delivery' is pitiful.  I'd _far_
>>prefer the typical newsgroup interface to this slow, clumsy, net-lag-sensitive
>>approach.  IE newsgroups feed my local machine all the time.  And I can read
>>them at my convenience with _zero_ delays of any kind.  Plus I can search for
>>old topics easily.  None of that is possible here.
>>
>>So the 'place' is very good... but the netscape/IE4 front-end is woefully
>>lacking compared to usenet news interfaces...
>>
>>
>>
>I'm a bit leary of change for the sake of change, but yes this is very slow. The
>convenient thing about being html based is that it is easily tided to all of the
>other CCC stuff like the resource center and a few things that I haven't looked
>at etc.
>
>Is this format real slow on a Linux sys? It's slow in Windows & Netscape but I
>wouldn't complain about it because it's very dependable.
>
>Pete


It is slow on any system due to network lag.  Someone very close to NYC might
find it perfect.  I often see lag of 1-2 minutes during the day, where I click
a message number and wait that long to see the text...

It isn't a windows or linux problem, it is a problem of routing packets thru
15-20 intervening machines one-way... then getting them back, all within a
reasonable amount of time.  The internet is way too busy for that nowadays...




>>
>>
>>>
>>>On June 26, 1999 at 13:12:53, Bas Hamstra wrote:
>>>
>>>>Hello all,
>>>>
>>>>This forum seems to work ok, because there are many interesting posts, which is
>>>>the most important. However the (web-only) interface is very clumsy. It could
>>>>easily be improved.
>>>>
>>>>The most important suggestion is this: e-mail each message to the members. With
>>>>a simple "in-box rule" we then can transport the messages to a map "CCC" on our
>>>>computer at home. And voila, as good as a real newsgroup!
>>>>
>>>>Of course the current web-interface can be maintained, as archive, where you can
>>>>check if a message is really posted.
>>>>
>>>>For a very good example of how this could work, take a look at www.egroups.com.
>>>>This is a place where everyone can start his own mailinglist. It too has a web
>>>>based interface, but the members of a group can choose for e-mailing the
>>>>messages. Moderating is supported very well too. If the messages can be mailed
>>>>to a moderator, they can as wel be sent to everyone, no?
>>>>
>>>>A second suggestion is the possibility to search for messages a la deja.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>Regards,
>>>>Bas Hamstra.



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