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Subject: Re: Improve this forum, easy!

Author: Christophe Theron

Date: 09:58:24 06/27/99

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On June 26, 1999 at 18:19:17, Robert Hyatt wrote:

>On June 26, 1999 at 14:07:34, Pete Galati wrote:
>
>>On June 26, 1999 at 13:35:32, Robert Hyatt wrote:
>>
>>>On June 26, 1999 at 13:17:22, Pete Galati wrote:
>>>
>>>>This works just fine, it doesn't need improving.
>>>>
>>>>Pete
>>>
>>>
>>>I disagree.  The 'forum' is fine.  The 'delivery' is pitiful.  I'd _far_
>>>prefer the typical newsgroup interface to this slow, clumsy, net-lag-sensitive
>>>approach.  IE newsgroups feed my local machine all the time.  And I can read
>>>them at my convenience with _zero_ delays of any kind.  Plus I can search for
>>>old topics easily.  None of that is possible here.
>>>
>>>So the 'place' is very good... but the netscape/IE4 front-end is woefully
>>>lacking compared to usenet news interfaces...
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>I'm a bit leary of change for the sake of change, but yes this is very slow. The
>>convenient thing about being html based is that it is easily tided to all of the
>>other CCC stuff like the resource center and a few things that I haven't looked
>>at etc.
>>
>>Is this format real slow on a Linux sys? It's slow in Windows & Netscape but I
>>wouldn't complain about it because it's very dependable.
>>
>>Pete
>
>
>It is slow on any system due to network lag.  Someone very close to NYC might
>find it perfect.  I often see lag of 1-2 minutes during the day, where I click
>a message number and wait that long to see the text...
>
>It isn't a windows or linux problem, it is a problem of routing packets thru
>15-20 intervening machines one-way... then getting them back, all within a
>reasonable amount of time.  The internet is way too busy for that nowadays...


Yes. Absolutely.

I have already mentionned that it is almost impossible for me to read more than
10% of the content of CCC because of this problem. A 1 or 2 minutes delay is
rather unfrequent, but a 20 or 30s delay is very common. It's enough to prevent
you to read much of this place, unfortunately...

I would really appreciate a way to download as fast as possible the content of
the X last hours, in a structured format (so I can walk easily thru the
threads). Maybe some kind of big zipped HTML file, I don't know... Anyway the
"archive of day XXXX" does not do the job at all.

I realize this is maybe a lot of job for the CCC team. Maybe they can simply
think about it for a future evolution of the place (which is already great
anyway)...


    Christophe



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