Author: Harald Faber
Date: 05:13:01 07/12/99
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On July 12, 1999 at 07:18:34, Shep wrote:
>>>[Event "Shep Championship '99"]
>>>[Site "?"]
>>>[Date "1999.07.08"]
>>>[Round "3"]
>>>[White "Nimzo 99a"]
>>>[Black "Chess System Tal 2.50"]
>>>[Result "1-0"]
>>>[ECO "B81"]
>>>[WhiteElo "2625"]
>>>[BlackElo "2595"]
>>>[Annotator "Shep"]
>>>[PlyCount "47"]
>>>[EventDate "1999.??.??"]
>>>
>>>1. e4 c5 2. Nf3 e6 3. d4 cxd4 4. Nxd4 Nf6 5. Nc3 d6 6. g4 h6 7. h4 Nc6 8. Rg1
>>>h5 9. gxh5 Nxh5 10. Bg5 Nf6 11. Qd2 Qb6 12. Nb3 a6 13. Be2 Bd7 14. h5 Nxh5 15.
>>>Rh1 g6 16. O-O-O Qxf2 17. e5 Qf5 18. Kb1 18... d5 {CSTal out of book at +0,77}
>>>19. Rde1 Rh7 20. Bd1 {Nimzo out of book at -0,02} 20... Bg7 $2 21. Rhf1 Qh3 22.
>>>Rf3 Ng3 23. Qf4 Bh8 24. Rxg3 1-0
>>
>>Seems like an ugly opening line.
>
>Indeed. Couldn't believe it myself... :)
The disadvantage of taking some games and make an opening book out of it...
>>>[Event "Shep Championship '99"]
>>>[Site "?"]
>>>[Date "1999.07.09"]
>>>[Round "4"]
>>>[White "Chessmaster 6000"]
>>>[Black "Chess System Tal 2.50"]
>>>[Result "1/2-1/2"]
>>>[ECO "E32"]
>>>[WhiteElo "2645"]
>>>[BlackElo "2590"]
>>>[Annotator "Shep"]
>>>[PlyCount "50"]
>>>[EventDate "1999.??.??"]
>>>
>>>1. d4 Nf6 2. c4 e6 3. Nc3 Bb4 4. Qc2 O-O 5. a3 Bxc3+ 6. Qxc3 b6 7. Bg5 Bb7 8.
>>>Nh3 h6 9. Bh4 d5 10. cxd5 exd5 11. e3 c5 12. Bxf6 Qxf6 13. dxc5 Qxc3+ 14. bxc3
>>>bxc5 15. Rb1 Bc6 16. Bb5 {Chessmaster out of book at -0,13} 16... d4 17. Bxc6
>>>Nxc6 18. cxd4 cxd4 19. Ke2 19... dxe3 {CSTal out of book at +0,80} 20. fxe3
>>>Rab8 21. Nf4 Rfe8 22. Rxb8 Rxb8 23. Rc1 Ne5 24. Nd3 Nxd3 25. Kxd3 a5 1/2-1/2
>>
>>Why did you stop here? Yes, it is a rook ending that looks like a draw but CSTal
>>is famous for some endgame blunders.
>
>Maybe. But since the match has no big consequences for the outcome of the
>tournament anyway, I decided to adjudicate a little earlier.
What does it mean "has no big consequences for the outcome"?? You are in round
4.
>>>[Event "Shep Championship '99"]
>>>[Site "?"]
>>>[Date "1999.07.10"]
>>>[Round "4"]
>>>[White "Junior 5.0"]
>>>[Black "Nimzo 99"]
>>>[Result "1/2-1/2"]
>>>[ECO "D45"]
>>>[WhiteElo "2620"]
>>>[BlackElo "2645"]
>>>[Annotator "Shep"]
>>>[PlyCount "65"]
>>>[EventDate "1999.??.??"]
>>>
>>>1. d4 Nf6 2. c4 e6 3. Nf3 d5 4. Nc3 c6 5. e3 Nbd7 6. Be2 Bd6 7. Qc2 O-O 8. O-O
>>>Re8 9. Rd1 Qe7 10. b3 b6 11. e4 Nxe4 12. Nxe4 dxe4 13. Qxe4 Bb7 14. Bf4 Bxf4
>>>15. Qxf4 c5 16. Qc7 Rab8 17. Ne5 17... Qg5 {Nimzo out of book at -0,22} 18. Bf1
>>>{Junior out of book at +0,26} 18... Nxe5 19. Qxe5 Qxe5 20. dxe5 Red8 21. Rd6
>>>Kf8 22. Rad1 Rxd6 23. exd6 Ke8 24. h3 Kd7 25. Be2 f5 26. Kh2 e5 27. g4 g6 28.
>>>gxf5 gxf5 29. Rg1 Bc6 30. Rg7+ Kxd6 31. Rxh7 Rg8 32. Bf1 a6 33. h4 1/2-1/2
>>
>>???
>>Why don't you let them play further?
>
>This is my "draw rule". Both programs showed "+0,00" three times in a row (OK,
>strictly speaking, one of the 6 "+0,00" was in fact a "+0,01"...).
>
>I was a little lazy annotating these games; usually, when it just says
>"1/2-1/2", it means the aforementioned "draw rule" was in effect, whereas I say
>"TD decision" if the draw had another reason. So the CM6K-CST match should get
>the additional annotation "TD decision".
>
>---
>Shep
Hmm. Either you or me is interpreting s.th. very different.
0.00 +/-0.8 means an equal position. Not a draw. Equal position means that if
both sides play their best the game should and will end in a draw. If one of the
programs makes a mistake the result may be different. So especiall when there is
enough material on the board it OFTEN makes sense to continue the game. I can
show you a game where CSTal2 e.g. threw a simple (at least for me) draw in a
bishop's ending.
It should be easy but it isn't.
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