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Subject: Re: Cray Blitz - Ratings of the past false? Or are Current ones false ??

Author: blass uri

Date: 02:23:53 07/28/99

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On July 27, 1999 at 22:56:03, Robert Hyatt wrote:

>On July 27, 1999 at 02:41:30, blass uri wrote:
>
>>
>>On July 26, 1999 at 19:23:01, John Wentworth wrote:
>>
>>>In my opinion, Cray Blitz running
>>>on a Cray Supercomputer would still blow away any of the current programs
>>>running on any PC today.
>>
>>I want to see games to see if Cray blitz of today is really better than parallel
>>crafty of today.
>>
>>I am interested to see results of games at different time control.
>>
>>I guess that cray blitz has good chances at blitz but is going to lose at slower
>>time control.
>>
>>Uri
>
>
>It isn't going to lose.  Crafty on a quad xeon is doing about 700K nodes
>per second.  Cray Blitz is doing 7M nodes per second.  That is 10X, which is
>very hard to overcome.  Cray Blitz also has some evaluation things that I can
>do with vector hardware cheaply, but which I can't do in normal scalar machines
>because of the cost.
>
>But even if knowledge was equal, 10x is murder, speed-wise.

I agree that 10x is a big advantage if the knowledge is equal but you stopped to
work on cray-blitz some years ago when you continue to work on crafty.

This is the reason that I guessed that the knowledge of crafty may be better
than the knowledge of cray-blitz and it has chances at longer time controls.

You also had a problem to get time to work on the cray and this may cause
cray-blitz more bugs then crafty(another reason that crafty has more chances).

I know that cray-blitz did not do impressive results in the last tournaments
that it played.
I understood that it lost against wchess because of a bug but there may be more
bugs that you are not aware to them.

Uri



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