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Subject: Re: Zugzwang!

Author: Herman Hesse

Date: 10:18:39 07/29/99

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On July 29, 1999 at 07:16:32, Amir Ban wrote:

>On July 28, 1999 at 18:16:24, Dann Corbit wrote:
>
>>On July 28, 1999 at 17:50:51, Kristo Miettinen wrote:
>>
>>>The position is the opening array, all pieces in their initial positions. The
>>>explanation about the eight pawns makes sense, intending to steer Crafty into
>>>open waters (on the assumption that the opponent is human?)
>>>
>>>I was looking into this on a whim, as I use the advantage of White in the
>>>opening position as my quantum of positional value (on which scale the value of
>>>a pawn is 6 quanta for me).
>>Here is the C.A.P. record for that position.
>>
>>rnbqkbnr/pppppppp/8/8/8/8/PPPPPPPP/RNBQKBNR w KQkq - acd 15; ce -7; pv e4 e6 Nf3
>>Bb4 Nc3 Ne7 Bc4 Nbc6 O-O O-O d4 Bxc3 bxc3 Na5 Bb5; pm e4; id "C.A.P. 4028";
>>
>>I bet you never knew crafty was French.
>>
>>Crafty thinks it is behind by 7 one hundredths of a pawn.  This is obviously
>>conservative because white has a tempo at least.  But I don't think that it is
>>grossly inaccurate.
>
>A correct evaluation is one that matches the winning percentages of the
>position. I think white has about 54% in serious play, and if so the evaluation
>should be about +0.20.

But how to relate to evaluation in any position ?

To give the opponent the move, as black gives white at the start game, -0.20,
then white moves (e4, d4, Nf3 ....), and gives black the move, implies the worst
white move (g4?) is incremental worth -0.40 (to give black +0.20), and each of
the best white moves should be incremental +0.40. Easy at the start position as
historical data exists in profusion. Then how to evaluate winning percentage
instead of usual polynomial after that?

Herman

>
>Amir



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