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Subject: Re: And the reason to purchase CSTal is what again?

Author: Bruce Moreland

Date: 18:28:14 08/25/99

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On August 24, 1999 at 15:08:33, Robert Hyatt wrote:

>On August 24, 1999 at 12:18:03, Bruce Moreland wrote:
>
>>
>>On August 24, 1999 at 08:59:01, Shep wrote:
>>
>>>Can somebody with knowledge of FIDE rules clarify this? If the flag falls, it's
>>>over, even if it's discovered later on, or am I wrong here?
>>>(Besides, I doubt modern tournament clocks would not shout a warning in that
>>>case.)
>>
>>If the position on the board is a mate, that supercedes any flag claims made
>>later.
>>
>>bruce
>
>
>This actually came up once...  one player was thinking, while thinking, his
>flag fell, his opponent called this, and went to get the TD.  When he returned,
>he found his opponent had found a mate and played it.  And he lost the game
>because the mate superceded the flag claim.  If the TD had been there to see
>the flag fall and the player call it, it would have ended at that point, but
>the loophole is that you can _not_ lose on time, _ever_, if you can find a move
>to mate your opponent.  :)
>
>Seems silly of course..

You have to complete the move before the flag falls, but I don't know how the
opponent could prove that you didn't if the tournament director wasn't present.

If you make the move on the board, then the flag falls, you would still win.

bruce



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