Author: Dave Gomboc
Date: 13:09:55 08/31/99
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On August 31, 1999 at 08:09:37, Bernhard Bauer wrote: >On August 30, 1999 at 18:14:18, Bruce Moreland wrote: > >> >>On August 30, 1999 at 17:36:33, Bruce Moreland wrote: >> >>> >>>On August 30, 1999 at 15:55:57, Fernando Villegas wrote: >>> >>>>I understand that some post by Thorsten -or several- has been deleted due to >>>>complains about his wording. An adjetive or a verb that was not liked by some >>>>people here. I do not know what Thorsten will do about this, if he will stay >>>>here or not. If he does not, then another member of this site will be lost and >>>>no any member to be sure, but one that has contributed with lot of material not >>>>only about CSTAL, but in general all the stuff concerned with chess computers. >>>>What was the sin of Thosrsten? He was too harsh for some too much delicate >>>>skins. By the way, it is curious to see that many times the delicate-skin-people >>>>are the very same that treat people they does not like with the utmost lack of >>>>respect. I have been treated as a thief, then as a guy making jokes that >>>>deserved to be in the rest room wall, etc. Or as a kind of impostor, a man >>>>trying to produce havoc just because I answered the post againts me or because I >>>>putted my answer in the beginnig of the page and not in the middle or because I >>>>resigned my post as moderator or because... Thorsten has received also all kind >>>>of attacks and I do not rememeber -correct me if I am wrong- he has been asking >>>>deletions of any kind. But then somebody ask the deletion of his post and at >>>>once he is satisfied. >>>>It is a pity that CCC is beginning to be in the hands of any crazy >>>>fundamentalist that just ask something to be deleted because he is insulted or >>>>injured in some way or another. Sometimes are just the so called "profanities" >>>>-my God, what an stupid word-, some times are an adjetive that cannot be >>>>withstood, sometimes is because suposedly you are making a gender attack over a >>>>lady and so and so. >>>>Where this ends? Are we kids in Disneyland? Is this site an >>>>only-american-style-of-life place and so everybody must abide to -for us in >>>>south america or in europe- crazy rules, idiotic customs, fanatic views of the >>>>world, puritan conditionated reflexes? >>>>Let me be clear: I am not blaming a moderator, I am not blaming moderation, I am >>>>not blaming but an attitude that has got more and more force doing of this >>>>place something more and more boring, punitive and self censored, the worst >>>>kind of it. By the way, I have not too much hopes this post will stay here too >>>>much time. >>>>Fernando >>> >>>We have received no complaints, and there have been no post deletions that I >>>know of for the past several days. >>> >>>bruce >> >>I figured it out. If anyone is interested, here is what happened. >> >>On the 25th, which was last Wednesday, Thorsten wrote a post in which he used a >>colorful metaphor regarding things that you can have control over and things >>that you can have no control over. Essentially he said that you can hit your >>wife, but you can't make a software developer fix bugs. >> >>KD saw this and deleted it and subsequent responses. At that point he ran out >>of time or something so he asked me to explain the reasons for doing this. >> >>This put me on the spot, because I didn't particularly care about the wife >>hitting comment. It was clear that he wasn't suggesting that anyone do this, or >>that he thought it was a good thing to do, he was just using violent language to >>make a point. >> >>KD thought otherwise, and apparently some others did, since there were >>complaints, and I can see their point, so I figured, fine, I'll do this. But I >>was left to explain a post deletion that I might not have done myself. I wrote >>Thorsten an email saying that some people including KD were offended by his >>metaphor, and asking him to consider using language that would get people >>thinking about his points rather than protesting his language. I noticed that >>elsewhere in that post he'd taken a few shots at the person he was responding >>to, suggesting that that guy stop living in a "dream world", and that he "grow >>up". This bothered me more than the wife thing, and I said so. I suggested >>that he could disagree with something without disparaging them. >> >>Anyway, so much for that post. For the record, Fernando, the three responses to >>that post, which were also deleted, were all complaining about the wife beating >>language, and only one of them was from an American. >> >>So end my hopes of making it through a week without being called a Nazi, a >>puritan fundamentalist, or an Orwellian terror. >> >>bruce > >Hello everybody, > >If I remember correctly Thorsten didn't suggest Karinsdad to beat Karinsmother, >but at the contrary he said in his flowerish manner that "if you beat your wife, >you will get in trouble with her". That wasn't a suggestion to beat "your wife", >but a stern warning. > >He wrote too that "if you beat Chris, you will get in trouble with him". In this particular case, your memory hasn't done a very good job. If you want to quote Thorsten's comment, you should really ask him to send you a copy of the post first. [snip] >Kind regards >Bernhard Dave
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