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Subject: Re: Moderation: Intolerance

Author: Bruce Moreland

Date: 00:07:44 09/02/99

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On September 02, 1999 at 02:31:24, KarinsDad wrote:

>On September 01, 1999 at 19:07:27, Fernando Villegas wrote:
>
>[snip]
>
>Why? Maybe because deletions
>>are a public fact and  non-deletions are not. If demands of deletions are made
>>privately, we cannot know that they existed and were rejected.We only know about
>>them when actually are accepted and a post is deleted. Then we receive -certain
>>people, specially- only one kind of signal. May I suggest that from time to time
>>you explicit why a demand of deletion was rejected? Perhaps signals could
>>equilibrate that way and people who like to scrutinize and punish what they does
>>not like could feel that there is not an open field of hunting for them.
>>Cheers
>>Fernando
>
>Fernando,
>
>Although on the surface, this sounds like a good idea, I do not think it really
>is. My reasoning is as follows:
>
>1) If people Email the moderators, they get feedback one way or another. Hence,
>if a person wants feedback, s/he should Email the moderators as opposed to
>posting a message.
>
>2) I think people here can understand that if a person posts "this should be
>deleted" and it isn't, that the moderators did not agree. However, if a
>moderator explained why that did not occur, even occasionally, then moderation
>threads about deletion would be starting up almost every week. I do not want to
>read that kind of stuff a lot and I doubt you do either.

I don't read every post and I don't intend to.  Some topics are uninteresting to
me and I will not necessarily read threads regarding those topics.  So if
someone posts a complaint about a thread, they shouldn't expect that I'll read
it, and they shouldn't just assume that no response from a moderator means that
the moderators didn't agree with their complaint.

People can write whatever they want, but if someone wants attention from a
moderator, they should use moderator email, and they get bonus points for
including a URL to the post they are complaining about, if they are complaining
about a specific post.

I read every moderator email, and if there has been no response from another
moderator I will respond within a few minutes after I read the mail, and I read
my mail way too much.  So members can be assured that if they express a concern
in that manner, that it will not be swept under the carpet.

bruce

>3) A person who Emails the moderator may be shy or may be a person who just
>reads and doesn't post often. Just because you and I are quite willing to write
>down whatever comes into our minds and we may not care who knows it, it does not
>mean that everybody is willing to do that. I consider the Emails to the
>moderators requesting a deletion to be a private communication between a
>concerned member of the forum and that person's main recourse to moderation. If
>the reason for that request is correct within my judgement, I will delete the
>post. If not, it should not matter to anyone else that a person asked me to look
>into it.
>
>We are mostly intelligent people here. We should know by now that deletion is a
>task that is undertaken relatively infrequently around here and that it is done
>mostly in an attempt to head off controversy. If a post is really bad, it gets
>deleted. If a bunch of people are offended by a post, there is a good chance
>that it will be deleted. If nobody complains about a given post, it is extremely
>rare that it gets deleted.
>
>KarinsDad :)



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