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Subject: Re: Poll question.

Author: Mark Young

Date: 00:36:03 09/09/99

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On September 09, 1999 at 02:30:06, Paulo Soares wrote:

>On September 09, 1999 at 00:35:01, Mark Young wrote:
>
>>On September 08, 1999 at 20:24:58, Dann Corbit wrote:
>>
>>>On September 08, 1999 at 19:38:01, Micheal Cummings wrote:
>>>[snip]
>>>>You are right. If a GM has a heart attack and is taken to hospital the match
>>>>would be a loss to him. Or a draw depending on how kind the other player is.
>>>>
>>>>Rebel just had a heart attack. If it is not up to playing with the big boys then
>>>>the offer should not have been made.
>>>>
>>>>I my opinion you either win, lose or draw. And stuff any outside happenings.
>>>>
>>>>It was a loss to Rebel for whatever reason. Which makes me sad cause I like the
>>>>program and want it to do well.
>>>
>>>I think what Ed is doing is sure to strengthen his program in a mighty way in
>>>the long run.  Besides which, he is providing real data to the threadbare
>>>question "How strong are computers compared to humans at tournament time
>>>controls?"
>>
>>This is not what Ed is doing. He is answering the question "How strong is Rebel
>>compared to GM humans at tourament time controls." We don't even know how strong
>>this version of Rebel is compared to other programs. This is a huge leap of
>>logic to make such a statment.
>>
>>>
>>>In any event, those (Rebel/GM) matches are more interesting to me than the
>>>recent knockout WC at Las Vegas.  I am glad that at least one program vendor had
>>>the moxie to give it a go.
>
>As Rebel is one of the top programs, and there is not great difference among
>the best programs, I think we can generalize.

7 Rebel 9.0 47MB P200 MMX  2525 24 -24 883 62% 2442

This is the rating for Rebel 9.0, this is under 50 rating points lower then
Fritz 5.32 and maybe 70 points lower then Hiarcs 7.32. How do we even know the
version of Rebel Ed is running is stronger then this. I do not and can not
generalize when I have no facts to even generalize about. Can you say for a fact
that the version Ed is running now is stronger then Rebel 9. NO!

Its very dangerous to start assuming things when we don't have any facts to back
it up.

I have seen nothing in this version of rebel yet to make me think it is stronger
then version 9. And from what I have seen so far it looks to be weaker then the
version that played GM Anand, but this is only subjective.

>
>Another subject:
>I have been seeing you place analyses of a position with Hiarcs7.32 with
>details as moves, depth, time, evaluation, variant, for the whole analysis done
>by H7.32. How could I make that?

Clip and paste it by  right clicking on the search window. But you know this...
here is the trick. For it to work have checked extra search info, and scroll
main line.

>Thanks,
>
>Paulo



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