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Subject: Re: CM6000 Top Engine on 200 MMX, Still No 1

Author: Mark Young

Date: 15:48:34 09/27/99

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On September 27, 1999 at 10:03:52, Enrique Irazoqui wrote:

>On September 27, 1999 at 09:39:17, Bertil Eklund wrote:
>
>>On September 27, 1999 at 05:02:28, Christophe Theron wrote:
>>
>>>On September 27, 1999 at 03:39:23, Micheal Cummings wrote:
>>>
>>>>Even though there are 4 programs ahead of it, but on much faster hardware.
>>>>CM6000 tops all other programs on the 200 MMX, So the current list is a bit crap
>>>>IMHO. Only 4 programs tested make the results look inflated and not accurate
>>>>list.
>>>>
>>>>We all know the limitations of the SSDF, but maybe their should be a different
>>>>list, cause it is not fair to only play 4 on that hardware and the rest get crap
>>>>hardware.
>>>
>>>The problem, and I think they are going to receive complains about this, is that
>>>the 4 programs tested on K6-450 ALL COME FROM CHESSBASE.
>>>
>>Hallo!
>>
>>We all know the reasons for the above. At first on the new hardware-level we
>>test high placed programs and new programs.
>
>A few hours ago, I sent to a programmer my own list, based on the SSDF scale:

Nice ratings list, do you have a web site that you post this list to....if not
you should get one.

>
>P200MMX            Test     SSDF     Diff
>
>Tiger 11.75 32MB   2602
>N732 128MB         2598
>CM6K 128MB         2591
>CM6K 16MB          2591     2577      14
>F532 128MB         2590
>H732 192MB         2584     2572
>F532 46MB          2579     2575       4
>N99a 128MB         2574
>F503 46MB          2566     2566       0
>N99a 46MB          2562     2567      -5
>H701 63MB          2556     2570     -14
>J5 128MB           2538
>J5 46MB            2538     2549     -11
>C166 128MB         2537
>R9 60MB            2524     2525      -1
>R10b 60MB          2524
>C1615 128MB        2524
>S3 128MB           2497
>W2K 192MB          2494
>M8 60MB            2492     2496      -4
>G6 192 MB          2489
>
>Average difference = -2
>
>________________________________________________
>
>PIII-500           Test     SSDF     Diff
>
>F532 192MB         2674     2681      -7
>N732 192MB         2666
>H732 192MB         2657     2646      11
>J5 192MB           2611     2626     -15
>C16.18 192MB       2587
>
>Average difference = 3.7
>
>As you can see, so far on the PIII-500 I tested only CB programs too, and this
>for 2 reasons:
>
>- they are strong
>- they are easy to test with test sets
>
>It makes me laugh (sort of) to see these suspicions based on that. By the way,
>CB didn't send me any hardware either. Pity. :)
>
>Enrique
>
>>I guess that we have been even more
>>critizised if we had started with Genius2, Rebel7 and so on. Unfortunately we
>>donĀ“t have the resources to manually play CM6000 and are forbidden to play a lot
>>of other interesting new programs. Of course all or most of the following
>>programs should have been included in the list if we were allowed to play with
>>them, Genius6, Zarkov, Wchess, Shredder3, CS-Tal and Rebel10. We hope to include
>>McPro and maybe Rebel-Century, Chess-Tiger and Shredder4 as soon as possible,
>>sorry I forgot another new CB-program Nimzo7.32. Of course also CM7000 if it
>>includes auto-playing.
>>
>>Regards Bertil SSDF
>>
>>>They say the next list is due for November. I think they could correct this huge
>>>diplomatic mistake by allowing other programs to use this hardware too.
>>>
>>>Of course, CM6000 looks like a good candidate.
>>>
>>>If they ask me, I can make a proposition for another good candidate... :)
>>>
>>>
>>>    Christophe
>>>
>>>
>>>>I will take the result from the engines on 200MMX hardware, which makes CM6000
>>>>number 1.



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