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Subject: Re: New Poll Results... So Far Pretty Intriguing.

Author: Steven Schwartz

Date: 11:01:24 09/29/99

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On September 29, 1999 at 13:33:25, KarinsDad wrote:

>On September 29, 1999 at 12:53:24, Steven Schwartz wrote:
>
>>On September 29, 1999 at 11:36:35, KarinsDad wrote:
>>
>>[Snip]
>>
>>>The problem was that the poll question is questioning the
>>>trustworthiness of members of this forum and shouldn't have been put up in the
>>>first place.
>>>KarinsDad :)
>>
>>The poll question came about because a couple of our members
>>made pretty serious allegations here on the message board of
>>what amounts to VERY questionable activity on the part of the
>>SSDF. No proof was offered (aside from what was called
>>"circumstantial evidence").
>
>Yes, it was easy to figure out WHY the question came to mind. The problem is
>that it is more difficult to figure out why it was allowed to be an opinion poll
>question.
>
>If you read posts:
>http://www.icdchess.com/ccc/message.html?70816
>http://www.icdchess.com/ccc/message.html?70851
>
>you can understand how easy it is to interpret that "circumstantial evidence" in
>a more positive light. I am not saying that anything untoward was done or not
>done with regard to the SSDF. I am saying that the original post allegations
>should not have been aired here without any sort of real proof and that mistake
>was compounded by making it an opinion poll question.
>
>>
>>I simply wanted to know how many of the membership actually
>>believed the merits of those allegations. There was never any
>>intent to "question the trustworthiness of members".
>
>Yes, I also understood that the intent was not to question the motives of the
>SSDF. However, just by asking the question, the motives of the SSDF and
>therefore by default the motives of the volunteers who make up the SSDF members
>(some of whom happen to be members here), are put into question.
>
>>
>>- Steve (ICD/Your Move)
>
>Yesterday, Dann sent me an Email as a joke. It asked the opinion poll question
>of whether people thought I was stealing code from someone in order to write my
>program. Although it was very humorous, I might have been slightly offended if
>Dann would have posted the message in this public forum as opposed to sending it
>to me in private since the joke concerned my honesty. The same applies to asking
>everyone's opinion about allegations against members of this forum. The poll
>question was in extremely poor taste at the least.
>
>KarinsDad :)
>
>PS. I do not want to make a big issue of this and this is the last I will harp
>on it.

I do not see your point.
   1) There are allegations and responses on the message board.
   2) There are loud messages from each side, but we do
         not know what the membership as a whole thinks.
   3) We have a poll.
   4) Now we know.
   5) I wonder if anyone at the SSDF took offense to the poll
        (no sarcasm intended)?
   6) I wonder if the accusers took offense to the poll (no
         sarcasm intended)?
   7) Harping done.
- Steve (ICD/Your Move)



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