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Subject: Re: My first CM7000 run and first crash. Otherwise, the program is very good

Author: Christophe Theron

Date: 23:50:05 10/13/99

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On October 14, 1999 at 02:31:27, Micheal Cummings wrote:

>On October 14, 1999 at 00:29:57, Christophe Theron wrote:
>
>>On October 13, 1999 at 23:04:49, Martin Grabriel wrote:
>>
>>>CHESSMASTER.EXE caused fault #c0000005 in CHESSMASTER.EXE at address
>>>0177:004fdd08
>>>
>>>To date, CrashGuard has recorded 1 fatal error(s) in this program.
>>>
>>>Reported By:
>>>CrashGuard v3.0
>>>
>>>Report Date:
>>>10/14/1999 10:55:53 AM
>>>
>>>Program:
>>>C:\CHESSMASTER 7000\CHESSMASTER.EXE
>>>(09/10/99 06:02 - 1376256)
>>>
>>>Registers:
>>>EAX=02d50078 CS=0177
>>>EIP=004fdd08 EFLGS=00010206
>>>EBX=fffffffe SS=017f
>>>ESP=0096fcec EBP=0096fd0c
>>>ECX=00000000 DS=017f
>>>ESI=00000000 FS=4997
>>>EDX=02e60b6c ES=017f
>>>EDI=0001ffff GS=0000
>>>
>>>Bytes at CS:EIP:
>>>89 79 04 8b 4c 13 04 8b 7c 13 08 03 5d f8 89 79
>>>
>>>Stack dump:
>>>00000000 02e60b70 00860000 bff7b99f 02d501bc fffffffe ffff0000 00000031 0096fd34
>>>004f8f80 02e5000c 0000003f 00000000 004f7f89 02e60b70 00413482
>>
>>
>>"bff7b99f" smells fishy, believe me. They are in deep trouble...
>>
>>
>>    Christophe
>
>So by sayting that, what do you mean, Since I do not know much about programming
>and having this program stuff up my system. What by the error given is it
>messing up ?


No it was a joke. Sorry.

What I know is that everything is unstable under Windows. The very principle of
allowing anybody update the system DLLs is incredibly fishy.

Microsoft has set the quality standard of software under Windows:
1) provide your crap to the customers as soon as it is written, so your product
is the first on the market.
2) Then and only then, test your program.
3) Then provide updates. Your customers are so busy downloading your updates,
testing them, and ask for the next update that they completely forget that they
could use somebody else's software.

The funny thing is that even your competitors are going to be very busy with
your updates, so they will be late in providing their own products.

How customers let this happen is still a mystery to me.

It looks like Mindscape has taken a lot of risks by adding a lot of multimedia
stuffs (DirectX drivers for example), when adding just one is already very
risky.

Mindscape has just learned the lesson from Microsoft. It's not their fault.


Just a note to MSVC6 users (this has been said before but it's worth saying it
again):

The MSVC6.0 C++ compiler produces INCORRECT CODE when you turn the "optimize for
speed" option ON. Microsoft admits this publicly on their Web site (I let you
the pleasure to find the page yourself). How many bugs do you want today?

But they are nice people. They have published the "Service Pack 3" (SP1 and SP2
did not correct the code generation issue), and you can download it. It will fix
all your problems (they say... I don't believe it anyway).

You just have to download the 120MB (yes ONE UNDRED TWENTY MEGABYTES) patch.

13 hours download, if everything runs smoothly...

I love them so much... And I say hello to all IE4/5 users...


    Christophe



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