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Subject: Re: My first CM7000 run and first crash. Otherwise, the program is very good

Author: Dave Gomboc

Date: 04:05:29 10/14/99

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On October 14, 1999 at 02:50:05, Christophe Theron wrote:

>On October 14, 1999 at 02:31:27, Micheal Cummings wrote:
>
>>On October 14, 1999 at 00:29:57, Christophe Theron wrote:
>>
>>>On October 13, 1999 at 23:04:49, Martin Grabriel wrote:
>>>
>>>>CHESSMASTER.EXE caused fault #c0000005 in CHESSMASTER.EXE at address
>>>>0177:004fdd08
>>>>
>>>>To date, CrashGuard has recorded 1 fatal error(s) in this program.
>>>>
>>>>Reported By:
>>>>CrashGuard v3.0
>>>>
>>>>Report Date:
>>>>10/14/1999 10:55:53 AM
>>>>
>>>>Program:
>>>>C:\CHESSMASTER 7000\CHESSMASTER.EXE
>>>>(09/10/99 06:02 - 1376256)
>>>>
>>>>Registers:
>>>>EAX=02d50078 CS=0177
>>>>EIP=004fdd08 EFLGS=00010206
>>>>EBX=fffffffe SS=017f
>>>>ESP=0096fcec EBP=0096fd0c
>>>>ECX=00000000 DS=017f
>>>>ESI=00000000 FS=4997
>>>>EDX=02e60b6c ES=017f
>>>>EDI=0001ffff GS=0000
>>>>
>>>>Bytes at CS:EIP:
>>>>89 79 04 8b 4c 13 04 8b 7c 13 08 03 5d f8 89 79
>>>>
>>>>Stack dump:
>>>>00000000 02e60b70 00860000 bff7b99f 02d501bc fffffffe ffff0000 00000031 0096fd34
>>>>004f8f80 02e5000c 0000003f 00000000 004f7f89 02e60b70 00413482
>>>
>>>
>>>"bff7b99f" smells fishy, believe me. They are in deep trouble...
>>>
>>>
>>>    Christophe
>>
>>So by sayting that, what do you mean, Since I do not know much about programming
>>and having this program stuff up my system. What by the error given is it
>>messing up ?
>
>
>No it was a joke. Sorry.
>
>What I know is that everything is unstable under Windows. The very principle of
>allowing anybody update the system DLLs is incredibly fishy.
>
>Microsoft has set the quality standard of software under Windows:
>1) provide your crap to the customers as soon as it is written, so your product
>is the first on the market.
>2) Then and only then, test your program.
>3) Then provide updates. Your customers are so busy downloading your updates,
>testing them, and ask for the next update that they completely forget that they
>could use somebody else's software.
>
>The funny thing is that even your competitors are going to be very busy with
>your updates, so they will be late in providing their own products.
>
>How customers let this happen is still a mystery to me.
>
>It looks like Mindscape has taken a lot of risks by adding a lot of multimedia
>stuffs (DirectX drivers for example), when adding just one is already very
>risky.
>
>Mindscape has just learned the lesson from Microsoft. It's not their fault.
>
>
>Just a note to MSVC6 users (this has been said before but it's worth saying it
>again):
>
>The MSVC6.0 C++ compiler produces INCORRECT CODE when you turn the "optimize for
>speed" option ON. Microsoft admits this publicly on their Web site (I let you
>the pleasure to find the page yourself). How many bugs do you want today?
>
>But they are nice people. They have published the "Service Pack 3" (SP1 and SP2
>did not correct the code generation issue), and you can download it. It will fix
>all your problems (they say... I don't believe it anyway).

Microsoft is explicit about what software errors have been confirmed, and which
have been fixed.  This is obvious from even a casual perusal of their MSDN site.

Maybe if they didn't have to spend so much time beating back the FUD they'd be
able to devote more resources to the remaining bugs in their products.

>You just have to download the 120MB (yes ONE UNDRED TWENTY MEGABYTES) patch.

... or get them to send you it on CD-ROM.  It would probably run you $15 (US).

>13 hours download, if everything runs smoothly...

Not everyone is using a 14kbps modem.  Or is that a 2400bps modem from your 386?

>I love them so much... And I say hello to all IE4/5 users...

Hello!  Actually, I am posting this with Netscape Navigator, since I've got
Linux up right now, but when I need to do some major block deletes I flip over
to WinNT and IE because NN can't even manage to block-select correctly with
page-up and page-down.

If there was an IE 5 for Linux that was as reliable as IE 5 is on my NT box, I'd
be using it instead of NN (4.61).

Dave



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