Author: Enrique Irazoqui
Date: 09:02:32 10/29/99
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On October 29, 1999 at 10:51:40, Djordje Vidanovic wrote: >On October 28, 1999 at 06:23:31, Enrique Irazoqui wrote: > >>On October 28, 1999 at 05:18:21, Micheal Cummings wrote: >> >>>On October 27, 1999 at 23:22:30, Tania Devora wrote: >>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>>What program is in first place in Ssdf ?? >>>> >>>> >>>> >>> >>>You can see at this site >>> >>>http://home3.swipnet.se/~w-36794/ssdf/ >>> >>>Fritz is, along with three other chessbase programs, This is only due to these >>>four programs being played on a K6-2 450 machines. >>> >>>But if you look at the 200 MMX machines CM6K is ahead of the rest, including >>>Fritz. So in my opinion CM6K is number 1 until they can get around, if they ever >>>do, to testing the other programs on the 450 machines. >> >>And Tiger is far ahead if you look at the P90 machines. So if you think that >>CM6K is #1 because it did better on P200s, you should consider Tiger as the best >>of all in comp-comp. I certainly do. >> >>Enrique > >Hi Enrique, > >I too have a copy of Chess Tiger 12 due to Cristophe's kindness. Unfortunately, >due to innumberable good reasons, I simply haven't had much time to pit it >against other programs, but have played several G/10 games. My impressions are >very favourable. Tiger reminds me of Ferret (which I have seen lots of times on >ICC) and Shredder (again the ICC console that I've seen in action). What >happens with Tiger is that you get squeezed into a ball slowly and imperceptibly >and then find yourself slightly worse off in the endgame. That's when the >torment starts. It simply won't let go. The same or similar thing happens with >the other two afore-mentioned progs. And that is exactly what we, humans, call >mastership. I see Tiger more like a 1999 version of Genius. It plays sensible, quiet moves and the game is even until Tiger sees deeper than the opponent. Then, as you say, bites and doesn't let go. This is the pattern I have seen in the matches I played, and now I see it doing it again to Crafty at bltz/5. To me, a human master plays differently: fights for the initiative, gets it and squeezes the opponent. Mchess plays more like this, but then Mchess doesn't have the speed it takes to beat the fast finders. > About your comp-comp prediction, I am not quite sure. Just told >you about Shredder which is going to be a gigantic opponent, and, do not forget >Fritz 6 that has really gained some worthwhile knowledge. But, these are only >my impressions based on a handful of games; I appreciate yours more as they are >based on many games. I don't know Shredder 4. As for Fritz 6, it is true that knows more than F532 and it seems a more interesting opponent, but it's also a bit slower and, overall, probably not stronger, at least in comp-comp. Tradeoffs... In a way I like that Fritz seems brighter, but on the other hand I feel almost betrayed. You see, to me Fritz used to be the speed champion, the fastest finder. Now that it is more of a hybrid, it is as if Fritz would have lost some of its built-in character. Does Fritz have a middle-aged identity crisis? :) As always, nice to see you around. Enrique >Regards, > >Djordje
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