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Subject: Re: Moderation: Last Warning: Knock it Off Amir

Author: Amir Ban

Date: 05:47:58 11/03/99

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On November 02, 1999 at 22:50:36, KarinsDad wrote:

>On November 02, 1999 at 19:00:49, Amir Ban wrote:
>

This is a nice grotesque aftermath to this business. The moderators have finally
decided to do some public moderation, and have found just the right timing,
place, target and tone for this.

I think you did a bad job at moderating this. By CCC standards, this was not
that bad, we've seen much worse. You could have aborted it before it reached its
peak, and without stepping on too many toes.

I told you in email: "To every action there's an equal and opposite reaction".
When Bob went into high gear, I was silent for a while, and you chose to keep
your silence. In these circumstances, it was to be expected that others like
Christophe would jump in, and indeed Christophe has since been busy explaining
that he's not Muhammad Ali and was just responding to intense and unanswered
provocation. If not Christophe, there would have been someone else (there were
others in fact).

I think you made errors in applying the rules too, like the claim that no
offenses to the charter took place does not seem correct to me, and I'm still
amazed at your ruling that the falsified quote is not an offense. If at least
you had bent the rules to keep peace and harmony, this may have been understood.
As it is, you achieved neither. And you are now busy fighting off accusations of
favoritism (which did not come from me).


>[snip]
>>
>>At this occasion I complained to the moderators, since I thought this is
>>definitely OUT. To my surprise, the moderators found that this is a bad quote
>>indeed, but argued that it was true IN SPIRIT, or alternatively, that it was a
>>well-intentioned mistake on Bob's part. They didn't find any offense.
>
>No, I find offense with you dragging this out as if it was a murder trial. You
>have made insinuations on Robert just like he has made insinuations on you.
>Neither of you are blameless, but you continue to drag it on and on and on.
>

Yes. I'm starting to get the idea that the real injured party here are the
moderators.

Understand this: Being a CCC moderator means being able to take heat. I was a
moderator in a period much more difficult than the present, and I've never had a
job where I had to take so much abuse from so many angles. It's part of the job,
and you are supposed to keep a business-like, even friendly, tone at all times.

Your "can you spell hyprocrite ?", I'm not sure who it is directed against (me ?
but it seems directed at a whole crowd), but wins my award of Worst Public
Performance by a CCC Moderator.

Look, when I ask if you are on vacation, I'm using the lightest and friendliest
tone I can think of to express my frustration at your absence. If you found that
offensive then:

1. I apologize.
2. Consider quitting, as this job may not be for you.


>>
>>One of the moderators suggested that I take what Bob says with a grain of salt.
>>Duh.
>
>I guess you only read what you wanted to read out of my Email.

I reread your email twice to make sure. I summarized almost everything you said
there in my post.


> Drop it now. No
>more warnings.
>

No kidding.

Amir


>>
>>Amir
>
>KarinsDad :|



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