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Subject: Re: ICC Championship, who participate?

Author: Brian Richardson

Date: 07:19:26 11/17/99

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On November 16, 1999 at 16:46:10, Peter McKenzie wrote:

>On November 16, 1999 at 12:37:51, Brian Richardson wrote:
>
>>On November 16, 1999 at 08:16:03, Inmann Werner wrote:
>>
>>>Hello
>>>
>>>I did not write much in the thread about the tournament, cause there are so "big
>>>names" in. Clear, that it is most interesting to have the most strong programs
>>>at the tournament. :-)
>>>
>>>Question:
>>>Who is allowed to participate?
>>>Should it only be a tourney of the "big ones" (above 2600 ELO) or are also some
>>>amateurs with about 2400 ELO, or maybe als 2200 ELO programs allowed and wanted.
>>>
>>>I would be really interested to join the tourney, as it will be the first one
>>>for me. My program often plays at "Winboard Tournaments", but never at a real
>>>one. ELO might by slightly under 2400.
>>>But the question is not!! only of my engine....
>>>
>>
>>Just an idea, but how about two groups, say A and B.  A would be all "known" or
>>established programs, and B would be for "unknown" or first timers?
>
>
>Are you talking about running 2 separate tournaments?  The problem with that
>sort of splitting up of the field is that there are always arguments about which
>group a particular program should go into.  I wouldn't want to prevent anyone
>from having a chance of winning the whole deal.  These days some of the new
>programs are quite strong, although they might not have played in any
>tournaments before.  Also, some of the weaker programs want a chance to test
>themselves against the 'big boys' - everyone loves the odd upset!
>
>The beauty of the Swiss Pairing System is that it handles a these issues quite
>nicely.  After a few rounds, the lower programs tend to fight it out at the
>bottom of the draw and the top programs tend to play each other just like the 2
>groups scenario.  The advantage of course being the extra flexibility for well
>performing 'lower' programs to sneak up into the top group and vice versa.
>
>If there are prizes, then I'm all for some sort of 'group B' prize for the
>amateur or first timer with the highest score but lets keep it simple and have a
>single Swiss Tourny.
>

I know nothing about tournaments (nor even how a Swiss works), so whatever is
fine with me--I just didn't want to get knocked out of everything after an early
loss...assuming I can get my program ready to play--the Winboard interface works
but I have no idea of how to play via ICC...

>>
>>That way the two groups might have some more reasonable expectations to be worth
>>the time (speaking as a Group Ber)
>>
>>>IMHO, some others are also interested in this issue.
>>>If you allow "everybody" to join, this can become a really big tourney, and that
>>>with only 8 rounds....
>>>
>>>Werner
>>>
>>>Hope of a free discussion about this.



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