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Subject: Re: Pet peeve of a pet peeve:Re: This is misleading....pet peeve resurfaces!

Author: Chessfun

Date: 09:25:07 11/20/99

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On November 19, 1999 at 13:46:15, Christophe Theron wrote:

>On November 19, 1999 at 13:34:42, Dann Corbit wrote:
>
>>On November 19, 1999 at 10:16:00, Randy Schmidt wrote:
>>>On November 19, 1999 at 07:03:59, Jouni Uski wrote:
>>>
>>>>On November 19, 1999 at 06:48:03, odell hall wrote:
>>>>
>>>>>On November 19, 1999 at 04:08:22, Jouni Uski wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>>From SSDF:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>1½01110011½1½111111111111½1½½10½11½11111 32.0/40  Tiger 12 amd-450
>>>>>>0½10001100½0½000000000000½0½½01½00½00000  8.0/40  Nimzo 99 200mmx
>>>>>>
>>>>>>12 wins in row against 2567 program! I wonder if Garry Kasparov can repeat this?
>>>>>>Actually I can bet $100 that he can't.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>Jouni
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>  Are you saying Tiger won 12 straight games one on top of the other? or do you
>>>>>mean twelve games with draws in between? If you mean the latter, I think that
>>>>>Kaspy could match this quite easily, especially if the program is running on a
>>>>>pent 200 and time control is 40/2.
>>>>
>>>>As You see it won 12 games straight and with changing colors (WBWBWB..)!
>>>>
>>>>Jouni
>>>
>>>Please note that tiger gets a V-12 engine with turbo boost and Nimzo has a
>>>4-cylinder engine with diluted fuel.
>>Of course.  Since the hardware was published, that is clear.  However, the
>>opponent has a known and very good rating.  Just pretend that Nimzo isn't Nimzo,
>>but rather a chess player who lives in a black box named Wally (the box is named
>>Wally, the player is anonymous).  Anyway, this player has an ELO of 2572 in his
>>club of very good players!!!  Now, Wally plays against C.T. and gets his ever
>>loving butt kicked.  Are you impressed now?  I know I am.
>>
>>>Show us this on equal machines :)
>>Better yet, reverse the machines and try again.  I'll suspect Chess Tiger may
>>win on the P200 (but it will be a lot closer).  In order for a really
>>significant statistical test, hundreds of games should be played.
>>
>>One thing is clear, Tiger has teeth, claws, and knows how to use them.
>>
>>Proposal to those who don't like unequal hardware:
>>Pretend that it is not a computer opponent at all but a faceless guy who is a
>>great tactician but not such a great strategist; who has a high ELO and will
>>play for hours on end.  He's kind of boring and won't talk about anything
>>interesting.  All he does is play all day.  He doesn't get his feelings hurt
>>when he loses and does not get excited when he wins.  So his feelings don't get
>>hurt.
>>
>>But don't think that way about Chess Tiger.  I think she's a girl.  So pretend
>>it's a lady in the box.  Am I right C. T.?
>
>
>Actually just before I named it "Chess Tiger" this program has been called
>"Tigress" for several months!
>
>
>    Christophe

Seems to me that the original point of the poster wasn't which machine has a
better cpu but as Nimzo is 2567 on a 200mmx could kaspy beat it 12x in a row
under that criteria. Personally i think he could provided he was motivated to
win all 12.
Thanks.







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