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Subject: Re: Rebel Shows GM strength once AGAIN(draws Baburin)

Author: Charles Unruh

Date: 07:12:49 12/07/99

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On December 06, 1999 at 20:50:41, James Robertson wrote:

>On December 06, 1999 at 10:18:00, Charles Unruh wrote:
>
>>On December 05, 1999 at 18:44:57, James Robertson wrote:
>>
>>>On December 04, 1999 at 16:40:02, Charles Unruh wrote:
>>>
>>>>How much does it take to show blind men that Comps are GM strength.  A program
>>>>beats a GM, draws several more, then beats lithuanian national team, Draws a
>>>>40/2 with Anand and there are people here who want to make out that it's hardly
>>>>USCF master strength!!!
>>>
>>>Rebel must be GM strength. How else could it lose to the Lithuanian National
>>>team, lose to Anand, lose to Rohde, lose to Hofman, and lose to who knows who
>>>else.
>>
>>Oh Kasparov lost to sokolov, that must mean he's no where near to 2830 right
>
>
>You have it backwards. :)) Sokolov's win, even though he did win, does not mean
>he is 2830. :))

Man you need a brain massage.  The statement means Kasparov must not be 2830
because he lost to a bare 2600 by your reasoning.
>
>>>
>>>If we just count Rebel's victories it is unquestionable super grandmaster. If we
>>>count just its losses it is unquestionably 1500. Average them out, and you get
>>>IM.
>>
>>It would be one thing if these victories where all spaced out.  However for
>>rebel to get it's wins all in a short period of time decreases the odds. If a
>>Human were to draw ANAND
>
>
>Rebel didn't draw Anand. Rebel lost 1.5-.5. Many humans will win one game and
>then draw the next just to get the day off. They still won. :)

Brain Massage Rebel drew Anand in a 40/2 game!  Show me an IM who will draw
ANAND in a 40/2 game you can't and he has played some and just by chance they
didn't happen to get their lucky 1 in a 100 draw i wonder why?

>
>
>>, beat the lithuanian nat'l team, Beat sherbakov, almost
>>beat a 2593 Baburin, all in a few months
>
>
>Get your calendar straight. Rebel-Anand was almost a year and a half ago. "All
>in a few years" is more accurate.
>
>
>>there is no way that you would be
>>trying to make out that he wasn't GM strength.  You can not find an IM in the
>>world that could produce the same sort of results in the same period of time!
>>Do you know Anand has not drawn a player that was only IM strength in years!
>
>
>Excepting Rebel, which IMs has he played in the last few years?
>
>
>>Further you can't totally judge a program by results.
>
>
>You mean Rebel's performance is so bad you have to say the results aren't real
>just to justify them?

Hahaha i wish you would learn to read full statements,  I invite all to read
your post it just makes me think that the educational institutions you have
attended are sorely lacking(i am trying to make a stretch and believe that you
have attended school at some point. Forgive me if i'm wrong).
>
>
>> Why you ask?  Becasue the
>>comp doesn't know who you are. An example of what i mean is this  I have had
>>several draws against Comps by 3 repetition.  The comp takes the draw because
>>the position is basically equal and it doesn't KNOW that i'm not a GM.  A GM
>>would break the rep, even if it was a slightly inferior move because he knows
>>i'm only 2000 and he can beat me.  It's not that the comp wouldn't destroy me if
>>played an alternative move to the rep, yet this would lower the rating.
>>>
>>>This is true for ANYBODY. Don't blindly filter out the results you don't want to
>>>see and claim that you have discovered something amazing.
>>
>>
>>I wish you would stop blindly filtering out results you don't want to see and >as
>
>
>I don't. Show me the results I have filtered out. I have only an IM performance
>rating of 2485 for Rebel after about a dozen games. None are left out.
>
>
>>for this line "and claim that you have discovered something amazing."  I would
>>imagine that their are a good number of psychiatrist in your local area you
>>might want to meet with to discuss your ongoing confusion.
>
>I take it you have experience selecting such doctors?
>
>James



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