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Subject: Re: Challenge to Deep Blue and any deepsearching prog

Author: Vincent Diepeveen

Date: 18:49:53 12/07/99

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On December 07, 1999 at 21:41:18, Joe Pechie wrote:

>On December 07, 1999 at 19:44:35, Vincent Diepeveen wrote:
>
>>Hello to All studiers of the game of chess with a program,
>>
>>Here a cool study which has next problems
>>  - some zugzwangs (black getting forced to move the queen)
>>  - the line(s) that win for white are forced till the end (singular)
>>
>>7k/2q3pP/6P1/8/8/8/6Pp/2RR3K/w - -
>>
>>black timeleft=666:40.00.00
>> - = - = - = - k   ...       1    ...
>> = - q - = - o O   ...       2    ...
>> - = - = - = O =   ...       3    ...
>> = - = - = - = -   ...       4    ...
>> - = - = - = - =   ...       5    ...
>> = - = - = - = -   ...       6    ...
>> - = - = - = O o   ...       7    ...
>> = - R R = - = K   ...       8    ...
>>white timeleft=666:40.00.00
>>white to move
>>
>>I estimated that for a program doing checks in qsearch
>>and NOT having any extension and not having hashtable luck
>>the solution is 22 ply to see. 23 ply otherwise.
>>
>>the solution is not found yet by my program (running
>>at a dual celeron 550 with 300mb hash now under linux of
>>cuz), as it's PVs are crap so far and it gives black the
>>chance to sac queen somewhere near end of pv.
>>
>>I'm not a dreamer so i'm not gonna ask for an output
>>of deep blue junior, but i love to see whether other
>>progs make a chance here.
>>
>>It's adviced to use KRPKP and KPKP KPK
>>egtb at least for this position, that should produce when
>>seeing the good lines a score at HUGE depths of mate in XXX
>>or something of over +15.0
>>
>>I'm not using them with diep here, so perhaps diep never finds it...
>>...i just pray for transposition luck right now... ...right now
>>score is +7.7 which is by accident also the score for KRP KP here
>>but i guess it didn't see it yet.
>>
>>Vincent
> It took 9 minutes of searching with junior 5.0 and a 233mhz pent to find rc4 at
>depth-19. Will let it chug away on this one for a while
>Joe

I'm interested in score and mainline.
thanks in advance,
Vincent



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