Author: Robert Hyatt
Date: 11:59:16 12/14/99
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On December 14, 1999 at 03:37:48, Amir Ban wrote: >On December 13, 1999 at 22:40:22, Robert Hyatt wrote: > >>On December 13, 1999 at 18:18:22, Will Singleton wrote: >> >>>On December 13, 1999 at 16:29:50, Amir Ban wrote: >>> >>>>On December 13, 1999 at 13:10:39, Ed Schröder wrote: >>>> >>>> >>>>> >>>>>Amir, can you post Junior's 40/120 results against GM's. I vaguely remember >>>>>yours were good too. >>>>> >>>>>Ed >>>>> >>>> >>>>If you have the Junior5 CD, there's a junior5.cbh on it with many tournament >>>>games played in various tournaments. If you don't have it, tell me and I'll >>>>email it your way. >>>> >>>>It contains most of it, but not all. I'm afraid some of Junior's record is lost, >>>>or at least seriously missing, like the match against Judith Polgar, Budapest >>>>'96 (lost 4-2). >>>> >>>>I hope to add to that record through the Club Kasparov Online Tournament in >>>>February. Also, old CCC readers who remembers that Junior was excluded from >>>>playing in the major league in October 97, will be interested to know that the >>>>Israeli Chess Federation has done more mental acrobatics in its attitude to >>>>computers and has reversed that decision. So I expect Junior to start playing in >>>>the 2000 league season, and I hope I will have something to report on that soon. >>>> >>>>Amir >>> >>>No kidding. I wonder if they'll take non-Israeli programs? :) >>> >>>Will >> >> >>I think Amir will probably have a lot more trouble than he expects. Many years >>ago the USCF finally relaxed the computer membership rules. And we all expected >>big things. But while they relaxed the rules, they let the organizers add (NC) >>to an event if they didn't want to deal with computers. 99.99% of all USCF >>events are now (NC). So they made the rules more liberal, but then slammed the >>door in our faces when we arrived... > >You misunderstand. I'm not talking about taking part in tournaments. That's >always been open to us, except for national championships. I'm well aware of the >issues and politics involved, and I've written on it in the ICCAJ a few years >ago. > >I'm talking about playing in the league. That's a team event with a whole-season >scheduled activity. There are many league divisions, starting with the national >league, and down to many minor, regional divisions. The competition is a >round-robin within the division, and each round takes place over 5 boards. Sort >of like college basketball, only much more exciting :) > > >Junior played with the Kfar-Saba team two seasons in the second league, and one >season in the national league, when it played 5th board (1st board was GM Vadim >Milov). It was then excluded by the league committee, and the Federation >confirmed this decision in October 1997. Junior will play next year in >Rishon-Lezion, where I expect the team will include Gelfand and Alterman, and >maybe Sophie Polgar. > >No local organizer will have any say in this. > >Amir In that case, good luck. In the US, we are effectively locked out of any sort of tournaments, unless something special is done. IE a couple of years ago a local organizer made special effort to include Crafty in the Pan American tournament. But that was done because the local organizer was a university with a lot of interest in computer chess. I find it practically impossible to play in human events sponsored by the USCF. Which is unfortunate, but typical it seems... :( Bob
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