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Subject: Re: Post the results without CSTal, that way it won't appear here..

Author: Thorsten Czub

Date: 18:13:26 12/17/99

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On December 17, 1999 at 20:34:27, Roger wrote:

>IMHO, this decision only supports what others have alleged, that you are biased
>toward CSTal.

???

>Let me suggest you run CSTal in the tournament, and post the results as they
>emerge, EXCLUDING CSTal, here.

you believe i would like to see YOU register cstals results ?
you can believe me, chris and i are in no way interested to
work for others. we have worked on cstal for us.

>That way, Chris gets his way...no CSTal results in CCC. And, the members of CCC
>get to see the results of the tournament.

it is not important what the name of a program is. it
is only important how the games are.
i could make the tournament with giving each program a number and not
name them.
i would still be much interested in it.
because i am looking for the games, not for the NAMES.


>Seems fair to me. I don't believe that Chris should be able to prevent us from
>seeing matches that his program has nothing to do with. Why should Chris have a
>right to prevent anyone here from seeing Fritz versus Junior, for example, just
>before his program will play them also?

he is the author of cstal and has rights.


>I would also argue that this sets an unfortunate precedent. If another
>programmer objects to the results being posted in RGCC, will you honor that
>request also?

i will decide depending on my mind.
if e.g. the licence agreement of a special program says:
you are only allowed to post results after getting the permission
by the programmer, i will have to decide different than when the
licence agreement is not restricitive.


>Roger

i have worked with chris many years.
but i do like other programmers and their work too.
you claim that i am biased.
but i said that shredder or tiger would win the championship in paderborn.
so i am biased towards them too. am i ?
also i wrote articles about mchess. so i am biased towards mchess too.
i wrote about rebel. biased towards it.
also i tested zarkov. biased.
i do like uli tuerke, comet programmer. biased.
i like dave kittingers wchess. biased i am.
i like isichess. and , as a result, i am biased.
in the end you will see, that all programmers pay me to
let their programs win. vincent does, virtual guys do
(i was biased in paris too, they paid me 2000 $ to let virtual win over
cstal).

i was biased in paderborn 1995 when cstal had to fight against hiarcs.

you are right. i am biased.
because i like computerchess.
and i honor what the programmers do.
i should be punished by death-penalty.

:-)))
how did i know that hiarcs would win championship 1993. because i was
biased.
i like chrilly donninger. that makes me biased.




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