Author: Robert Hyatt
Date: 11:55:34 12/23/99
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On December 23, 1999 at 06:05:10, Graham Laight wrote: >On December 22, 1999 at 21:42:53, Robert Hyatt wrote: > >>> hmm Strange that a man of Science such as yourself would go on "feeling" and >>>no facts. Schredder 4 just got finish Drawing Karpov at 40/2, so they could very >>>well be near 2700, although I doubt it. By the way what is your rating? I would >>>like to know how much chess knowledge is behind these "feelings" >>> >>> >> >> >>I had a provisional rating of just over 2200. But that was provisional. I >>never played in the needed 24 games. I have played a FM on ICC (used to play >>him pretty regularly) and generally broke even with him. I'd guess he was >>really a 2000-2100 FIDE player as he was not playing much tournament chess >>when he was on ICC. >> >>I have a pretty good 'feeling' about the game. And a lot of my 'feelings' >>about how computers play come from both personal observation, plus lots of >>discussion with players _far_ stronger than I am, a couple of them being GMs >>and a couple more being active IM players... >> >>As far as going on 'feeling' and not 'fact' that is simply wrong. I haven't >>seen any great results by computers against GM players at 40/2. Drawing Karpov >>is not bad. But he is a long way from a 2700 player today... Once I see that > >After all these years of reading Bob's posts, I've finally caught him making an >ill-informed comment! Karpov's rating IS 2700. Follow the link below to see the >official FIDE ratings: > He has a 2700 rating... which has been steadily dropping the last few years. He doesn't play anywhere near as well as he did 15 years ago... >http://www.worldfide.com/fide/html/top100men.html > >Just goes to show - even the best of us have our off days... > Only goes to show that it takes a while for a rating to drop, particularly if you don't play in a lot of tournaments/games. :) >-g > >>programs do play evenly with GM players at 40/2, my estimate will change. But >>not until... >> >> >>> >>> >>> 2700 is an incredibly high >>>>rating, better than all but maybe 10 players. I don't believe a computer >>>>other than Deep Blue has a prayer of playing at that level, on any hardware >>>>forseeable for the next 5 years, assuming the PC platform. >>>> >>>>Rebel has almost hit 2500 against GM and IM players. to get to 2700 would >>>>require a herculean effort. IE it would have to win 3 games for every loss >>>>vs 2500 players, which seems impossible at present...
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