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Subject: Re: Chess Tiger - Is It Really 2696 ELO?

Author: Graham Laight

Date: 03:05:10 12/23/99

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On December 22, 1999 at 21:42:53, Robert Hyatt wrote:

>>  hmm Strange that a man of Science such as yourself would go on "feeling" and
>>no facts. Schredder 4 just got finish Drawing Karpov at 40/2, so they could very
>>well be near 2700, although I doubt it. By the way what is your rating? I would
>>like to know how much chess knowledge is behind these  "feelings"
>>
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>
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>I had a provisional rating of just over 2200.  But that was provisional.  I
>never played in the needed 24 games.  I have played a FM on ICC (used to play
>him pretty regularly) and generally broke even with him.  I'd guess he was
>really a 2000-2100 FIDE player as he was not playing much tournament chess
>when he was on ICC.
>
>I have a pretty good 'feeling' about the game.  And a lot of my 'feelings'
>about how computers play come from both personal observation, plus lots of
>discussion with players _far_ stronger than I am, a couple of them being GMs
>and a couple more being active IM players...
>
>As far as going on 'feeling' and not 'fact' that is simply wrong.  I haven't
>seen any great results by computers against GM players at 40/2.  Drawing Karpov
>is not bad.  But he is a long way from a 2700 player today...  Once I see that

After all these years of reading Bob's posts, I've finally caught him making an
ill-informed comment! Karpov's rating IS 2700. Follow the link below to see the
official FIDE ratings:

http://www.worldfide.com/fide/html/top100men.html

Just goes to show - even the best of us have our off days...

-g

>programs do play evenly with GM players at 40/2, my estimate will change.  But
>not until...
>
>
>>
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>> 2700 is an incredibly high
>>>rating, better than all but maybe 10 players.  I don't believe a computer
>>>other than Deep Blue has a prayer of playing at that level, on any hardware
>>>forseeable for the next 5 years, assuming the PC platform.
>>>
>>>Rebel has almost hit 2500 against GM and IM players.  to get to 2700 would
>>>require a herculean effort.  IE it would have to win 3 games for every loss
>>>vs 2500 players, which seems impossible at present...



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