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Subject: Re: Enrique plays new tournament with only top programs?!

Author: Harald Faber

Date: 04:01:52 12/30/99

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On December 30, 1999 at 06:47:12, Enrique Irazoqui wrote:

>On December 30, 1999 at 05:38:05, Harald Faber wrote:
>
>>On December 30, 1999 at 04:28:20, Enrique Irazoqui wrote:
>>
>>>>>>>I would like to play a tournament. It would be at 40/40 on 2 PIII-500 with 256MB
>>>>>>>RAM. The difference in performance between a P500 and a P600 or 700 doesn't
>>>>>>>justify the price, I think. Next problem: I could play it with Tiger, Shredder
>>>>>>>4, Fritz 6, Junior 6, Hiarcs 732 and Nimzo 732, 20 game matches for a total of
>>>>>>>300 games, which takes about a month. The other possibility would be to add
>>>>>>>Crafty 17.4 and Genius 6.5, but playing 10 game matches and a total of 280
>>>>>>>games. What do you think? 20 game matches are more accurate, but including more
>>>>>>>programs is tempting, even if I don't think that they could win the torunament.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>I'd like to see 20 games matches without Crafty and Genius6.5. Your players list
>>>>>>will contain the absolutely top programs at the moment except Rebel Century. You
>>>>>>should take Rebel into this tourney, it deserves to be participant.
>>>>>
>>>>>Of course Rebel deserves it, and that's why I won't include it. Let me explain:
>>>>>it seems that the auto232 driver of Rebel is hurting its performance, so it
>>>>>would be unfair to enter a handicapped Rebel. The only way would be to play it
>>>>>manually... No thanks.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>Sorry, I forgot about that, you are right. On the other hand you will be a slave
>>>>of the CB autoplayer...
>>>
>>>The autoplayer of CB is fine. This is not the problem. What bothers me is that I
>>>will have to play CB engines in F532. F6 and J6 have too many bugs right now.
>>
>>
>>Enrique,
>>I always read Fritz6 and Junior6 have many bugs. I know J6 has a not working
>>auto analyze function. What else can you mention, and I mean real bugs and no
>>minor flaws.
>
>The bug I am most concerned about has to do with terminating games for no
>reason, which is a royal pain. The other major bug of not resetting engine
>parameters after switching from Fritz to Hiarcs and viceversa can be taken care
>of once you know it, but there is nothing one can do about terminating games
>before they are finished. Other bugs regard cosmetics or analyzing positions,
>but are harmless for my tournament.


You mean terminating games with the autoplayer?
What is it with not resetting the engine parameters? Does it happen only if you
change them, or do Fritz and Hiarcs have absolutely different parameters that
are not refreshed? I think of the following:
Fritz engine is loaded, has pawn value (or any other setting) of 100. Now I
change to Hiarcs who has a pawn value of 123 as default. What happens? Will
Hiarcs use the 123 or take over the 100? Or will Fritz take over the 123 after
again switching from Hiarcs to Fritz?


>>>>If you decide to run this tourney, it will be VERY good right now, no need to
>>>>get another dozen of machines.
>>>>
>>>>So Enrique, are you gonna play? PLEEEEASE! :-)
>>>>That would answer many questions...
>>>
>>>Yesterday I phoned my dealer and I'll get the machine this evening. I got up at
>>>5am after 2 hours sleep, excited like a child. Even my 13 year old son is
>>>laughing. :(
>>
>>
>>It is hard that there are people who don't understand  the degree of excitement.
>
>This is not the case of my son. He wants me to drop the tournament, connect both
>computer and play Superbikes together. Madness. As if I wouldn't have serious
>things to do! :)


Hehe. :-))


>>One of them is my wife. :-)
>>(Certainly all married guys here can say the same) :-)
>
>No way! My wife even pushed me to get a new machine. More: right now she is
>trying to convince me about getting a digital camera, so I don't have to go to
>town 35 Kms away just to pick a computer. I am not all that hard to convince, by
>the way. :)  This Dutch woman is quite unique.


Yes, and that makes me very jealous. ;-)


>>>So: RT, S4, J6, F6 (which one?), H732 and N732 at 40/40 on 2 PIII-500 with 256MB
>>>RAM, 20 game matches, total of 300 games. After this is done (one month) I might
>>>enter another program.
>>>
>>>Enrique
>>
>>
>>Enrique, this is GREAT, may I kiss your feet? ;-))
>
>Only my feet! ;(


That was the first part of the body that came in my mind; isn't it devoting
enough? :-)


>>This will bring up light in the jungle of the new programs.
>
>I hope so. It can be fun too, no?


I hope so, and I am absolutely sure it will be fun.


>By the way, how do we do things? Do I post the
>games here or I better send them to Steve and he can put them somewhere in
>Resources or whatever is called?
>Enrique

Ask Steve directly, it could be a bit too much if you post the 20 games over and
over here. Collect them all, make an archive out of it and let Steve provide the
archive in the resource center.




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