Author: Chris Carson
Date: 13:27:48 01/05/00
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On January 05, 2000 at 15:58:40, Chessfun wrote: >On January 05, 2000 at 15:38:53, Chris Carson wrote: > >>There have been posts showing ICC lists at Blitz, >>Bullet and 40/2. I agree that the number is few, >>but it is what it is. :) Does the ICC data contradict >>me? :) If so, post and I will accept the data. :) >> >I have never seen this 40/2 list, please post this documentary >evidence. Standard I have seen that list but standard can be 15min 0inc. > Standard is what I was refering to. I stand corrected. :) >Here is the current list from ICC. > >best c >Standard Blitz Bullet >2719 TheComputer(C) 3319 Tendulkar(GM) 3036 crafty(C) >2670 SandmanJr(C) 3250 A-Morozevi(GM) 3005 ZarkovX(C) >2653 crafty(C) 3237 Shakespear(GM) 2975 Hawkeye(IM) >2641 bookbuilder(C) 3192 Tack(GM) 2963 garompon(GM) >2638 RebelTiger(C) 3117 Leon(GM) 2951 Tack(GM) >2635 mundilfari(C) 3077 Netsurfer(C) 2854 brut(C) >2631 BlueFlame(C) 3068 crafty(C) 2848 Secret(C) >2625 MrJolly(C) 3057 Vic11 2824 Dlugy(GM) >2621 Varguz(C) 3054 bonvivant 2791 SharpShoote(C) >2617 Netsurfer(C) 3054 Hawkeye(IM) 2788 BlueFlame(C) >2601 WhiteCastle(C) 3042 velimirovi(IM) 2783 Finegold(IM) >2600 SPIKE-1(C) 3030 FlyingPike(GM) 2743 singacrafty(C) >2599 Lynnett(C) 3018 GMAlex(GM) 2740 vodka(C) >2597 Good-Boy(C) 3008 EasyToGues(GM) 2733 junior(GM) >2591 CM5500(C) 3006 jeleen(GM) 2720 RebelTiger(C) >2588 ZarkovX(C) 3001 nasenmann(IM) 2712 counterplay(C) >2586 Mofongo(C) 3000 Heine(GM) 2712 WhiteCastle(C) >2584 EA6PZ(C) 2998 NDShort(GM) 2708 xypher(C) >2583 KillerGrob(C) 2994 TheComputer(C) 2706 The-Joker(GM) >2580 vodka(C) 2992 EggSalad(C) 2690 Netsurfer(C) >2568 xypher(C) 2979 Goldmund(GM) 2688 pap(GM) >2560 ZXL2 2951 Dlugy(GM) 2685 rude-agent(C) > >Interesting how also 5 GM's are top in blitz. So some GM's are better according to this list. :) This list shows me that some GM's and some programs are close at blitz and bullet. I do not see any GM's at Standard (any thing I print about this would be speculation). :) >As for the standard list I checked the top 5 in blitz >and only A-Morozevi(GM) has a record Ohhh by the way it's 2817 >with 1 win and 1 loss. > Few games played. :) >>I have also been known to admit when I was wrong. I >>have been in the past. I use to think the SSDF ratings >>were 200 points to high, then 100 points to high, but when >>the error of measure is taken into account and Tournament >>Performance Ratings, well, it is what it is. :) >> >>Please post your data and links. I hear people >>say x is to high, but when asked what is correct, >>they usually don't provide an answer or data to >>support it. Just curious. Bob and Ed have been >>doing this for a long time and have a lot of data, >>take a closer look at how they respond to the posts. :) >> >My implication in my statement was you could have posted >more to support your position, not that I had tons to support >or deny the accuracy of the SSDF ratings. OK. I posted the data I needed to support my analysis. I have not seen much data to show me that I am way off. I did give a range and the Rebel data is close to the range on AMD K6-2 450 HW. I have no way to judge Rebel Century and SSDF. It is not on the list. My opinion: Rebel is GM strength based on it's performance rating, and I would not be surprised if the Top 5 SSDF programs (and Rebel Century) scored above 2519 (GM strength) in GM tournaments. This might still be a loosing record (as I have stated in other posts), but would be GM strength and within SSDF ratings parameters. I also think this is competative with GM's (competative is when ratings are withing 200 points). :) > >I have seen both ED, Dr. Hyatt and others over the last year. >I see nothing wrong with anything I have written since a preface >to all of it was IMHO. I do see things wrong however with your posts, >such as snipping everything and posting a blanket statement. > >>What do you think is the correct rating? What data >>supports it? Thanks. :) >> >I believe max around 2500 FIDE. Current data supporting this is >Rebel's performance of 2475. Then we agree. :) Do you think a PIII-800 would improve this rating? I do. :) > >>By the way. Who is Chessfun? >It's me of course :-). >Thanks. >> >>Best Regards, >>Chris Carson Best Regards, Chris Carson
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