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Subject: Re: Poll Question - Tournaments vs Matches

Author: Chessfun

Date: 12:58:40 01/05/00

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On January 05, 2000 at 15:38:53, Chris Carson wrote:

>There have been posts showing ICC lists at Blitz,
>Bullet and 40/2.  I agree that the number is few,
>but it is what it is.  :)  Does the ICC data contradict
>me?  :)  If so, post and I will accept the data.  :)
>
I have never seen this 40/2 list, please post this documentary
evidence. Standard I have seen that list but standard can be 15min 0inc.

Here is the current list from ICC.

best c
Standard            Blitz               Bullet
2719 TheComputer(C) 3319 Tendulkar(GM)  3036 crafty(C)
2670 SandmanJr(C)   3250 A-Morozevi(GM) 3005 ZarkovX(C)
2653 crafty(C)      3237 Shakespear(GM) 2975 Hawkeye(IM)
2641 bookbuilder(C) 3192 Tack(GM)       2963 garompon(GM)
2638 RebelTiger(C)  3117 Leon(GM)       2951 Tack(GM)
2635 mundilfari(C)  3077 Netsurfer(C)   2854 brut(C)
2631 BlueFlame(C)   3068 crafty(C)      2848 Secret(C)
2625 MrJolly(C)     3057 Vic11          2824 Dlugy(GM)
2621 Varguz(C)      3054 bonvivant      2791 SharpShoote(C)
2617 Netsurfer(C)   3054 Hawkeye(IM)    2788 BlueFlame(C)
2601 WhiteCastle(C) 3042 velimirovi(IM) 2783 Finegold(IM)
2600 SPIKE-1(C)     3030 FlyingPike(GM) 2743 singacrafty(C)
2599 Lynnett(C)     3018 GMAlex(GM)     2740 vodka(C)
2597 Good-Boy(C)    3008 EasyToGues(GM) 2733 junior(GM)
2591 CM5500(C)      3006 jeleen(GM)     2720 RebelTiger(C)
2588 ZarkovX(C)     3001 nasenmann(IM)  2712 counterplay(C)
2586 Mofongo(C)     3000 Heine(GM)      2712 WhiteCastle(C)
2584 EA6PZ(C)       2998 NDShort(GM)    2708 xypher(C)
2583 KillerGrob(C)  2994 TheComputer(C) 2706 The-Joker(GM)
2580 vodka(C)       2992 EggSalad(C)    2690 Netsurfer(C)
2568 xypher(C)      2979 Goldmund(GM)   2688 pap(GM)
2560 ZXL2           2951 Dlugy(GM)      2685 rude-agent(C)

Interesting how also 5 GM's are top in blitz.
As for the standard list I checked the top 5 in blitz
and only A-Morozevi(GM) has a record Ohhh by the way it's 2817
with 1 win and 1 loss.

>I have also been known to admit when I was wrong.  I
>have been in the past.  I use to think the SSDF ratings
>were 200 points to high, then 100 points to high, but when
>the error of measure is taken into account and Tournament
>Performance Ratings, well, it is what it is.  :)
>
>Please post your data and links.  I hear people
>say x is to high, but when asked what is correct,
>they usually don't provide an answer or data to
>support it.  Just curious.  Bob and Ed have been
>doing this for a long time and have a lot of data,
>take a closer look at how they respond to the posts.  :)
>
My implication in my statement was you could have posted
more to support your position, not that I had tons to support
or deny the accuracy of the SSDF ratings.

I have seen both ED, Dr. Hyatt and others over the last year.
I see nothing wrong with anything I have written since a preface
to all of it was IMHO. I do see things wrong however with your posts,
such as snipping everything and posting a blanket statement.

>What do you think is the correct rating?  What data
>supports it?  Thanks.  :)
>
I believe max around 2500 FIDE. Current data supporting this is
Rebel's performance of 2475.

>By the way.  Who is Chessfun?
It's me of course :-).
Thanks.
>
>Best Regards,
>Chris Carson



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