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Subject: Re: Poll Question - Tournaments vs Matches

Author: Robert Hyatt

Date: 13:40:02 01/05/00

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On January 05, 2000 at 15:58:40, Chessfun wrote:

>On January 05, 2000 at 15:38:53, Chris Carson wrote:
>
>>There have been posts showing ICC lists at Blitz,
>>Bullet and 40/2.  I agree that the number is few,
>>but it is what it is.  :)  Does the ICC data contradict
>>me?  :)  If so, post and I will accept the data.  :)
>>
>I have never seen this 40/2 list, please post this documentary
>evidence. Standard I have seen that list but standard can be 15min 0inc.
>
>Here is the current list from ICC.
>
>best c
>Standard            Blitz               Bullet
>2719 TheComputer(C) 3319 Tendulkar(GM)  3036 crafty(C)
>2670 SandmanJr(C)   3250 A-Morozevi(GM) 3005 ZarkovX(C)
>2653 crafty(C)      3237 Shakespear(GM) 2975 Hawkeye(IM)
>2641 bookbuilder(C) 3192 Tack(GM)       2963 garompon(GM)
>2638 RebelTiger(C)  3117 Leon(GM)       2951 Tack(GM)
>2635 mundilfari(C)  3077 Netsurfer(C)   2854 brut(C)
>2631 BlueFlame(C)   3068 crafty(C)      2848 Secret(C)
>2625 MrJolly(C)     3057 Vic11          2824 Dlugy(GM)
>2621 Varguz(C)      3054 bonvivant      2791 SharpShoote(C)
>2617 Netsurfer(C)   3054 Hawkeye(IM)    2788 BlueFlame(C)
>2601 WhiteCastle(C) 3042 velimirovi(IM) 2783 Finegold(IM)
>2600 SPIKE-1(C)     3030 FlyingPike(GM) 2743 singacrafty(C)
>2599 Lynnett(C)     3018 GMAlex(GM)     2740 vodka(C)
>2597 Good-Boy(C)    3008 EasyToGues(GM) 2733 junior(GM)
>2591 CM5500(C)      3006 jeleen(GM)     2720 RebelTiger(C)
>2588 ZarkovX(C)     3001 nasenmann(IM)  2712 counterplay(C)
>2586 Mofongo(C)     3000 Heine(GM)      2712 WhiteCastle(C)
>2584 EA6PZ(C)       2998 NDShort(GM)    2708 xypher(C)
>2583 KillerGrob(C)  2994 TheComputer(C) 2706 The-Joker(GM)
>2580 vodka(C)       2992 EggSalad(C)    2690 Netsurfer(C)
>2568 xypher(C)      2979 Goldmund(GM)   2688 pap(GM)
>2560 ZXL2           2951 Dlugy(GM)      2685 rude-agent(C)
>
>Interesting how also 5 GM's are top in blitz.
>As for the standard list I checked the top 5 in blitz
>and only A-Morozevi(GM) has a record Ohhh by the way it's 2817
>with 1 win and 1 loss.

The very top-rated GM players don't play computers.  Otherwise they wouldn't
be the very top-rated players on ICC any longer.  :)  At least not at bullet/
blitz.



>
>>I have also been known to admit when I was wrong.  I
>>have been in the past.  I use to think the SSDF ratings
>>were 200 points to high, then 100 points to high, but when
>>the error of measure is taken into account and Tournament
>>Performance Ratings, well, it is what it is.  :)
>>
>>Please post your data and links.  I hear people
>>say x is to high, but when asked what is correct,
>>they usually don't provide an answer or data to
>>support it.  Just curious.  Bob and Ed have been
>>doing this for a long time and have a lot of data,
>>take a closer look at how they respond to the posts.  :)
>>
>My implication in my statement was you could have posted
>more to support your position, not that I had tons to support
>or deny the accuracy of the SSDF ratings.
>
>I have seen both ED, Dr. Hyatt and others over the last year.
>I see nothing wrong with anything I have written since a preface
>to all of it was IMHO. I do see things wrong however with your posts,
>such as snipping everything and posting a blanket statement.
>
>>What do you think is the correct rating?  What data
>>supports it?  Thanks.  :)
>>
>I believe max around 2500 FIDE. Current data supporting this is
>Rebel's performance of 2475.
>
>>By the way.  Who is Chessfun?
>It's me of course :-).
>Thanks.
>>
>>Best Regards,
>>Chris Carson



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