Author: Robert Hyatt
Date: 13:32:12 01/05/00
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On January 05, 2000 at 14:47:11, Chris Carson wrote: >In my opinion SSDF does not need more external >validation (some human games are included in the ratings). this is not correct. human ratings were used (IIRC) maybe up to 1993 at the latest. 7 years washes _all_ the 'humaness' out of the SSDF rating pool, since they have played thousands of games since the last human game was included. > >However, here is a proposal. > >Given college tournaments like this: > >Pan American (Final Rankings avg rating: 2185): Interestingly, Crafty played in the Pan American a couple of years ago and finished in clear first place, all by itself, running on a pentium pro 200 machine. However, that doesn't help ratings at all, as there are so many players, you won't see a 2000-rated player until the last 2-3 rounds, after you have played 4-5 players between 1400 and 1900 >1 "Nickoloff,Bryon" 2513 >2 "Schleifer, Mike" 2440 >3 "Djerkovic, Mladen" 2314 >4 "Livshits, Ron" 2529 >5 "Milicevic, Goran" 2402 >6 "Goldenberg, Danny" 2307 >7 "Charbonneau, Pascal" 2355 >8 "Hacat, Kevork" 2208 >9 "Filipovich, David" 2350 >10 "Cummings, David" 2442 >11 "Zybura, Andre" 2024 >12 "Divljan, Igor" 2196 >13 "Vujic, Branimir" 2271 >14 "Bluvshtein, Mark" 2259 >15 "Ochkoos, Jura" 2364 >16 "Hunter, Mory" 2012 >17 "Mitrovic, Milan" 2304 >18 "Dougherty, Michael" 2368 >19 "Golts, Roman" 2282 >20 "Meinrenken, Echard" unr. >21 "Rositsan, Boris" 2270 >22 "Wight, Keith" 2155 >23 "Chu, Stefanie" 2078 >24 "Dixon, Frank" 2069 >25 "Buscar, Michael" 1970 >26 "Xu, Sheng-Jun" 2132 >27 "Hevey, David" 1253 >28 "Vassanji, Anil" 2002 >29 "Ruiz, Richard" 2143 >30 "Sherman, Alan" 1765 >31 "Rolfe, Warrick" 2120 >32 "Le, Ken" 1938 >33 "Manalo, Pepin" 1872 >34 "Campbell, Brett" 2248 >35 "Jung,Hans" 2311 >36 "Vaingorten, Yaaqov" 2192 > >Play Tiger (or any other SSDF program) using >two machines (P-200mmx and AMD K-2 450) and see if >they score as expected (within two error of measures). > >Yes, I would like to see stronger competition, but this >would provide some information. Just a thought. :) > >My opinion: Tiger would rule this tournament on both >machines and score above the SSDF rating. :) It absolutely wouldn't. Crafty played 7 rounds and had one draw. It's performance rating was under 2400. Because the first few rounds you will get low-rated players. > >How do you think your favorite program would fair? How >slow of a machine would be needed to give the players >a chance? > >I think Crafty did this a couple of years ago on a Ppro 200 >and did not loose a game. :) > >Note: not every player on the above list performed as expected >acording to rating (lots of variability in human ratings). :) > >Best Regards, >Chris Carson Yes it did. The problem is that there are few GMs and hundreds of 1500-1900 players. That does nothing for a rating. :)
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